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[rawlifter]

Great post

[cj1capp]

HOLY CRAP!!! I wrote this originally!!! Check out www.nutrtionalsupplements.com under the steroid section. I wrote this a few years ago!!! LOL...happy something Ive written has stuck and gotten around!

LOL, Sept 1st 2003!!!! Damn, im flattered!

http://www.nutritionalsupplements.com/supp...opic.php?t=7519

awesome post thank you for the effort.

I nominate this for "sticky" status!

i second this but even better i nominate you avy. i love it

[MR2U]

great basic info I vote sticky

[deadweight]

Nothing is greater then the basics.I really enjoyed the post bro!........Thats why i say the BARBELL RULES....I find nothing build better thicker muscle then the barbell.Where would mankind be without the basics?....
deadweight

[GuardDog]

always a good read

[GymFreak]

Thats a great post bro very helpfull info

[SSIrish]

Always good to see info like this around. Serves to educate the newbie and remind the vet.

[athlete20]

Great sticky bro.

[mandrake]

I do not know if it was mentioned but way back when "Paul Borrensen" god rest his soul, while doing research discovered that Trenbolone and Nandrolone are competitive inhibitors in the fact that they compete with eachother for the receptor site and the resulting compound become toxic to the body sometimes effecting thyroid function and other sytems.
In the end you use more and get less resoults.
I always stuck with Deca and Dball or Tren and EQ and have had good results with that.

But then again everyone is different so see what works for you, great info though.

s mandrake

this site ROCKS!

[Thinkbig]

PAUL WAS AHEAD OF HIS TIME ON MANY LEVELS, THOUGH HIS CRAZY USE OF SLIN IS SOMETHING I NEVER FULLY GRASPED.

YES, I AM A STRONG BELIVER IN THAT A CLASS 1 COMPOUND LIKE TREN AND/OR DECA SHOULDN'T BE UTILIZED TOGETHER, ALTHOUGH I KNOW AM IN THE MINORITY.

19 NOR DERIVATIVES ARE EXTREMELY ANDROGEN RECEPTOR SPECIFIC IN HOW THEY MEDIATE THEIR EFFECTS AS WELL AS BEING VERY AR BINDING.

CLASS 1 AR MEDIATED COMPOUNDS WILL COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER FOR A CHANCE TO BIND TO THE AR AND LIKE TWO GUYS TRYING TO FUCK THE SAME PIECE OF ASS, THINGS WILL GO WRONG, NAMELY NEITHER DRUG WILL BE AS EFFECTIVE MG PER MG AS THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN WITHOUT THE OTHER.

ALOT OF GUYS DON'T REALIZE THAT SYNERGY OF DRUGS DOESN'T MEAN TOSSING A BUNCH OF SHIT TOGETHER AND HOPING FOR THE BEST, OFTEN TIMES 1+1 =0, SYNERGY IS AN ART AND WHEN UTILIZED PROPERLY CAN MAKE 1+1 =4, BUT AGAIN, ONLY WHEN PROPER STRUCTURE AND PHARMACOLOGY HAS BEEN ASCERTAINED AND PUT FORTH.

CLASS 1 DRUGS STACK BEST WITH CLASS 2 DRUGS THUSLY THE OLD DECA D-BOL STACK.

ONE IS AR MEDIATED IN ITS EFFECTS AND THE OTHER IS TO A LESSER DEGREE ABLE TO PROVIDE ITS EFFECTS WITHOUT STRONG BINDING TO THE AR, SO NO COMPETITON RESULTS, JUST GOOD SYNERGY.

[\SHINE/]

Nice post guys! I rarely use more than two compounds together theese days, incorporating hgh , igf etcetra.


And good point on the thyroid, both those proges based drugs slow the thyroid down a bit.

[deadweight]

Good stuff man.....Thats one of the beauties about steroids createing a great cycle.Putting them together to get the most of of them..The more you do the better you become createing them....dw

[mandrake]

Paul Borrensen said it and my experience has shown it to be true ....DO NOT mix Dena and Trenbalone they are inhibating competatores for the receptor site meaning they get together cancel eachonther out and the receptor is not utilizeds as it should be with the presences of exogenous hormone. Plus the toxicity of the two compunds have a sysnergistic effenct (greater that the whole) which can cuase serious side effects.

stay away and train safe

Mandrake

[BigDuece]

All great cycles start off with a perfect diet, training program, and getting your blood work done regularly so you know your body..