Liquid Aminos
Started By Kosher Fried, Apr 07 2006 01:09 AM
12 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 07 April 2006 - 01:09 AM
whats the best? what's moderate? lol...ThinkBig'll chime in with beef aminos i'm sure....he wrings cattle out outside of texas for fun and for their amino juice...then bottles it and sells it..refrigerated
but seriously...taste is a minor factor...Twinlab Amino Fuel was dreadful, but i liked it..i had 4 bottles of it...opened a new one tonight and it was all gel...wouldnt come out...tasted like asshole-flavored talc...threw it away, and the other was the same way..dunno what happened
i have 2 32oz bottles of Dymatize Liquid Aminos comin..which will tide me over for a bit
what else can i get?
Ebay auction..since i'm a cheap ass
but seriously...taste is a minor factor...Twinlab Amino Fuel was dreadful, but i liked it..i had 4 bottles of it...opened a new one tonight and it was all gel...wouldnt come out...tasted like asshole-flavored talc...threw it away, and the other was the same way..dunno what happened
i have 2 32oz bottles of Dymatize Liquid Aminos comin..which will tide me over for a bit
what else can i get?
Ebay auction..since i'm a cheap ass
#2
Posted 07 April 2006 - 02:17 AM
lmao...
WELL, PERSONALLY I THINK THEY ARE CRAP, BUT IF YOU INSIST ON THEM:
IRON-TEK MAKES ONE CALLED: ESSENTIAL LIQUID AMINO COMPLEX
DYMATIZE MAKES ONE CALLED: SUPER AMINO LIQUID
HIGHERPOWER MAKES ONE CALLED: LIQUID AMINO COMPLETE
THERE ARE MANY, THING IS ITS ALL MOSTLY HYDROLYZED GELATIN, WHICH IS A COMPLETE SHIT SOURCE OF AMINO'S AND SCORE EXTREMELY LOW ON BOTH THE PROTEIN DIGESTABILITY CORRECTED AMINO ACID SCORE (PDCAAS) AND PROTEIN EFFICIENCY RATIO(PER) SOME EVEN HAVE SOY IN THEM, WHICH I AM NO FAN OF AT ALL...
TAKE FOR EXAMPLE THE TWINLAB ONES YOU HAD BEEN USING, THE FIRST INGREDIENT IS HYDROLYZED GELATIN, AND ALTHOUGH IT LISTS WHEY IN IT ALSO, YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS ITS ALMOST NONE, IF AT ALL, REMEMBER NO ONE CHECKS THESE TO MEET LABEL CLAIMS ANYWAYS BRO...
IN MY OPINION, YOU'D DO BETTER WITH EITHER BEEF LIVER AMINO TABLETS, OR GO GET A HYDROLYZED CASEIN AMINO TABLET THAT HAS BEEN TESTED TO HAVE A AMINO NITROGEN/TOTAL NITROGEN RATING OF ATLEAST 30% OR ITS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY!!!
BUT HELL I WOULDN'T LISTEN TO ME, I AM JUST ROPING STEERS AND QUEERS IN TEXAS...lol
WELL, PERSONALLY I THINK THEY ARE CRAP, BUT IF YOU INSIST ON THEM:
IRON-TEK MAKES ONE CALLED: ESSENTIAL LIQUID AMINO COMPLEX
DYMATIZE MAKES ONE CALLED: SUPER AMINO LIQUID
HIGHERPOWER MAKES ONE CALLED: LIQUID AMINO COMPLETE
THERE ARE MANY, THING IS ITS ALL MOSTLY HYDROLYZED GELATIN, WHICH IS A COMPLETE SHIT SOURCE OF AMINO'S AND SCORE EXTREMELY LOW ON BOTH THE PROTEIN DIGESTABILITY CORRECTED AMINO ACID SCORE (PDCAAS) AND PROTEIN EFFICIENCY RATIO(PER) SOME EVEN HAVE SOY IN THEM, WHICH I AM NO FAN OF AT ALL...
TAKE FOR EXAMPLE THE TWINLAB ONES YOU HAD BEEN USING, THE FIRST INGREDIENT IS HYDROLYZED GELATIN, AND ALTHOUGH IT LISTS WHEY IN IT ALSO, YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS ITS ALMOST NONE, IF AT ALL, REMEMBER NO ONE CHECKS THESE TO MEET LABEL CLAIMS ANYWAYS BRO...
IN MY OPINION, YOU'D DO BETTER WITH EITHER BEEF LIVER AMINO TABLETS, OR GO GET A HYDROLYZED CASEIN AMINO TABLET THAT HAS BEEN TESTED TO HAVE A AMINO NITROGEN/TOTAL NITROGEN RATING OF ATLEAST 30% OR ITS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY!!!
BUT HELL I WOULDN'T LISTEN TO ME, I AM JUST ROPING STEERS AND QUEERS IN TEXAS...lol
#3
Posted 07 April 2006 - 08:31 AM
TB,
WHat are your thoughts on Beverly Nutritions Amino Acid Tabs? They seem to be a pretty reputable company and many bro's swear by their products, just thought I'd ask. They sell them on 1fast400.com , like 500 tabs for around $30. I personally would like to take them immediately prior to and after working out to get aminos in my system quick!
WHat are your thoughts on Beverly Nutritions Amino Acid Tabs? They seem to be a pretty reputable company and many bro's swear by their products, just thought I'd ask. They sell them on 1fast400.com , like 500 tabs for around $30. I personally would like to take them immediately prior to and after working out to get aminos in my system quick!
#4
Posted 07 April 2006 - 09:38 AM
well fuck!
ok...i just hate the big ass horse-tabs
and i didnt say you rope steers...i say you choke em out for their amino-goodness
ok...i just hate the big ass horse-tabs
and i didnt say you rope steers...i say you choke em out for their amino-goodness
#5
Posted 07 April 2006 - 12:07 PM
Just curious, why do you favor liquid aminos over capped ones? I'd argue there is only about 5 minutes difference between the absorbtion times for the gelatin shells.
#6
Posted 07 April 2006 - 12:35 PM
QUOTE(razg @ Apr 7 2006, 01:07 PM)
Just curious, why do you favor liquid aminos over capped ones? I'd argue there is only about 5 minutes difference between the absorbtion times for the gelatin shells.
THE CONCEPT IS JUST THAT. FASTER ABSORPTION....IT IS BELIEVED BY SOME THAT THE LIQUID FORM IS SUPERIOR FOR THIS REASON. I PERSONALLY DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THIS THEORY. I USE MOSTLY POWDERED PRODUCT AND AM SATISFIED. NOW SOMETIMES I USE THE BEEF LIVER AMINOS IN CONJUNCTION WITH MY OTHER AMINOS AND NOT SURE I CAN TELL A DIFFERENCE, BUT METALLY I BELIEVE THERE TO BE ONE. THIS IS TYPICALLY WHEN I AM ON A CYCLE AND NEED THE ADDITIONAL AMINOS/PROTEIN. SOMETIMES IT IS HARD TO EAT ENOUGH AND WORK TOO....LOL
#7
Posted 07 April 2006 - 12:53 PM
yup...agreed...working 40 hours, school 12 hours, leaves me lacking on some days with total protien...i dont like taking horse pills either..1/4 cup of liquid = 15 GIANT horse suppository amino tabs
#8
Posted 07 April 2006 - 01:25 PM
Personal taste I guess, i'd rather just pop a few pills. I recently tried EAAs in solution with water which was absolutely gross, i'm guessing regular liquid aminos don't taste much better.
#9
Posted 07 April 2006 - 02:06 PM
QUOTE(razg @ Apr 7 2006, 02:25 PM)
Personal taste I guess, i'd rather just pop a few pills. I recently tried EAAs in solution with water which was absolutely gross, i'm guessing regular liquid aminos don't taste much better.
I JUST MIX IT IN A SHAKE OR SOMETHING. NEVER KNOW IT IS THERE
#10
Posted 07 April 2006 - 03:04 PM
QUOTE(relentless @ Apr 7 2006, 09:31 AM)
TB,
WHat are your thoughts on Beverly Nutritions Amino Acid Tabs? They seem to be a pretty reputable company and many bro's swear by their products, just thought I'd ask. They sell them on 1fast400.com , like 500 tabs for around $30. I personally would like to take them immediately prior to and after working out to get aminos in my system quick!
WHat are your thoughts on Beverly Nutritions Amino Acid Tabs? They seem to be a pretty reputable company and many bro's swear by their products, just thought I'd ask. They sell them on 1fast400.com , like 500 tabs for around $30. I personally would like to take them immediately prior to and after working out to get aminos in my system quick!
YES, BEVERLY'S MASS AMINO'S IN THE HIGHEST GRADE CASEIN HYDROLYSATE MADE TODAY, THATS NO BULLSHIT, EITHER, THE SCIENCE BACKS IT, THE SCIENTIFIC MEASURE USED TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF NITROGEN IN A PRODUCT OF AMINO'S IN THE AN/TN RATIO...
BEVERLY'S MASS AMINO'S HAVE A AMINO NITROGEN/TOTAL NITROGEN OF 49.6%, ANY HIGHER AND THE PRODUCT WOULD LIQUIFY INTO A COMPLETE HYDROLYSATE.
SO, YES, I DO LIKE AND STAND BEHIND THE BEVERLY AMINO'S.
#11
Posted 08 April 2006 - 08:33 AM
Thanks TB, Im gonna get me some to take pre/post w.o. to get aminos quickly into my blood. Then, when i get come from the gym, i will follow with my usual pure vitargo, CEE, glutamine peptides and later a 55g protein shake.
#12
Posted 08 April 2006 - 11:49 AM
Whey protein protein contains all the aminos you will EVER need, imo, aminos are wortless to buy them separately
#13
Posted 08 April 2006 - 04:34 PM
QUOTE(chgolatin2 @ Apr 8 2006, 12:49 PM)
Whey protein protein contains all the aminos you will EVER need, imo, aminos are wortless to buy them separately
WELL, YES And NO...
YES, YOU ARE RIGHT, A GOOD WHEY IS ABSORBED FAST AND HAS ALL THE AMINO'S ESSENTIAL...
NO, IN THAT, AMINO'S ARE WORTHLESS, AND HERES WHY, AMINO'S IN FREE FORM AREN'T UTILIZED VERY WELL BY THE BODY, IN FACT PEPTIDES (HYDROLYSATES) ARE USED FASTER THAN BOTH WHEY PROTEIN AND FREE FORM AMINOS, SO AS YOU CAN SEE SOMETHING LIKE A CASEIN HYDROLYSTATE IS ABSORBED VERY FAST, IT ACTUALLY STARTS ABSORBING BEFORE IT EVEN GETS INTO THE GUT, AND THERE IS VERY LITTE TO DIGEST, THIS MAKES IT FASTER AND MORE EFFICIENTLY UTILIZED THAN ANY WHEY ( WITH EXCEPTION OF A PURE HYDROLYSATE, BUT THAT JUST FURTHERS MY POINT) OR FREE FORM AMINO...
BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, FREE FORM AMINO'S AREN'T VERY USEFUL (WITH EXCEPTION OF THE (EAA'S, AND BCAA'S)
IF YOUR GOING TO SUPPLEMENT AMINO'S GET THEM IN A HYDROLYZED PEPTIDE FORM.
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