Bicep
Started By Bison, Jul 15 2006 09:08 AM
15 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 15 July 2006 - 09:08 AM
I got a workout partner that has long biceps. His arms look like fucking huge bricks but he has no peaks. What can we hit during arms to get his mountains to stand up.
#2
Posted 15 July 2006 - 11:55 AM
Nothing. It's all down to genetics.
#3
Posted 15 July 2006 - 01:28 PM
This may or may not help but worth a shot.
When doing any kind of dumbell curls seated, standing, incline ,ect... at peak contraction twist your wrist ( so your pinkie finger comes towards you ) and squeeze .
When doing any kind of dumbell curls seated, standing, incline ,ect... at peak contraction twist your wrist ( so your pinkie finger comes towards you ) and squeeze .
#4
Posted 15 July 2006 - 08:54 PM
I know genetics play a big part in this, but I an curious to here ideas as well. I also lack peaks
#5
Posted 17 July 2006 - 12:47 PM
QUOTE(Bia865 @ Jul 15 2006, 02:28 PM)
This may or may not help but worth a shot.
When doing any kind of dumbell curls seated, standing, incline ,ect... at peak contraction twist your wrist ( so your pinkie finger comes towards you ) and squeeze .
When doing any kind of dumbell curls seated, standing, incline ,ect... at peak contraction twist your wrist ( so your pinkie finger comes towards you ) and squeeze .
that worked for me. I would have him try that!
#6
Posted 17 July 2006 - 04:51 PM
QUOTE(daveshenchman @ Jul 17 2006, 03:24 PM)
I disagree, genetics isnt the whole thing. Mine were like that, and after doing heavy barbell, hecrules curls and heavy precher curls mine turned out fine and I wasnt gifted with genetics.
#7
Posted 17 July 2006 - 05:49 PM
I have to agree with dieting down to see them, then perhaps concentrating on doing exercises that emphasize the area you want to stand out..making them bigger.
It won't actually be changing shape, just creating an illusion. Sort of like how a person with a 34 inch waist can look like he has a smaller waist than a person with a 32 inch waist if his quads and lats blow out in comparison.
It won't actually be changing shape, just creating an illusion. Sort of like how a person with a 34 inch waist can look like he has a smaller waist than a person with a 32 inch waist if his quads and lats blow out in comparison.
#8
Posted 19 July 2006 - 06:33 PM
QUOTE(daveshenchman @ Jul 17 2006, 06:20 PM)
So youre sayin you can change the shape of your muscles?
Would you agree that doing the heavy movements you mentioned made your biceps bigger? If so, how can you say that you altered your genetic bicep traits and that it wasnt simply that you were lacking size?
Would you agree that doing the heavy movements you mentioned made your biceps bigger? If so, how can you say that you altered your genetic bicep traits and that it wasnt simply that you were lacking size?
I didnt alter it, I just worked hard and it came.
#9
Posted 20 July 2006 - 11:23 AM
THE ANSWER IS GENETICS! TURNING YOUR PINKY ONE WAY IS NOT AND WILL NOT HAVE AN EFFECT ON YOUR BICEP PEAK! thank you.
#10
Posted 20 July 2006 - 03:39 PM
It may not make your peak geneticly LARGER but it can help make what you do have stand out to its fullest potential.Just because someone has small calves doesnt mean they shouldnt try to make them stand out and look better or bigger.Isnt that what bodybuilding is all about?You make eveypart of your body look as good as you can. No you cant alter yopur genetics. Although you CAN take wat you do have to YOUR genetic potential.
#11
Posted 20 July 2006 - 04:18 PM
"Genetic Potential" is a BS statement thrown around anyway.
Knowing you have a limit, but not being aware of it's level until you reach it has little practical use.
It's like,"lifelong earning potential", until you have lived your life, how do you know how much you will eventually earn?
While I don't feel ultimately you can change your muscles shape, I have seen plenty of BB'ers that had bodyparts that were so lagging they dismissed this as something that wasn't their strong point genetically.
After tweaking excersise selection and other variables these exact same people have ended up finding that these same bodyparts are now up to par with the rest of their physique, and in some, their strongest aspect.
Knowing you have a limit, but not being aware of it's level until you reach it has little practical use.
It's like,"lifelong earning potential", until you have lived your life, how do you know how much you will eventually earn?
While I don't feel ultimately you can change your muscles shape, I have seen plenty of BB'ers that had bodyparts that were so lagging they dismissed this as something that wasn't their strong point genetically.
After tweaking excersise selection and other variables these exact same people have ended up finding that these same bodyparts are now up to par with the rest of their physique, and in some, their strongest aspect.
#12
Posted 20 July 2006 - 04:22 PM
Well said.
#13
Posted 31 July 2006 - 02:02 PM
You can absolutely grow certain parts of your muscles through emphasizing certain movements. Most recently (and shockingly), there was a guy at my gym (came in with no peaks, just 'average') that would come in and work his biceps totally wrong.. He'd just do the middle to the top portion of the motion. Low and behold, half a year later, he had peaks alright - very small, but relatively high peaks.
Another method that could possibly help with obtaining peaks (I sure as hell wouldn't reccommend it) is synthol..
Another method that could possibly help with obtaining peaks (I sure as hell wouldn't reccommend it) is synthol..
#14
Posted 12 September 2006 - 03:01 PM
Genetics usually play a limit to how big/max size a muscle can get but not how big they are now. Take 2 theoretical twins...ones a couch potato and other a bodybuilder. Does the bodybuilding twin have larger bicep peaks...most def if hes been training them! Sure 2 diff people might do the same routine and one is genetically gifted to grow peaks better from the same work output. Point is, if you add new stimulus to a area/movement/angle thats been neglected there is potential to grow.
#15
Posted 28 September 2006 - 05:18 PM
QUOTE(Bison @ Jul 15 2006, 10:08 AM)
I got a workout partner that has long biceps. His arms look like fucking huge bricks but he has no peaks. What can we hit during arms to get his mountains to stand up.
Yeah genes play a role, how much is up for debate. Just get the best workout by squeezing the life out of your bis every rep. Don't use genes for an excuse to escape trial and error. Do everything right and push yourself hard, period.
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