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[manimal78]

guys and gals,

due to recent events, i have recently chosen to stay out of the AAS game forever. It's just not worth the risk to me.

Lately, I have been natural, i have been having very poor workouts. When not on AAS, i just don't feel like working out. When I get to the gym, I just don't have that drive. I can't focus on my workouts, and I feel generally fatigued.

i've been taking creatine ethyl ester, but with little success. It gives decent pumps, but my body literally feels like it is deflating (although strength has remained almost at the levels I was at during AAS usage.)

are there any good supplements that you guys/girls recommend? I'd rather not use ephedra or any such stimulant.

Are there any good prohormones or test boosters that you guys recommend? or any particular creatine product?

how is that Dermacrine stuff that I see advertised on the shitty boards? seems like marketing hype to me, but who knows.

sorry i have to go this route, but at this point, i have to turn to yall. any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
manimal78

[deadweight]

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Sorry to say,Nothing out there is really worth a dam....Moreso,if you have used before then you will allways compare any product to AAS...Nothing comes close.Maybe someone here might have a clue what will work besides steroids...I hadly dont think so...Good luck bro.

[piotr]

gotta agree with deadweight on this one

whenever i'm off like you said it doesnt really feel like im training properly and i;m just waiting till i can get back on it

it surprises me that in the states there are any "legal" "prohormones" left

piotr

[Grunt76]

There are actually quite a few out there, real AAS, DESIGNED with bodybuilding in mind, that are extremely effective. To name a few: superdrol clones, pheraplex clones, halodrol clones, and IBE's Epistane. I am sure there are others, they are certainly not as obvious or notorious as any of these here. Now these are all methylated so long cycles are out of the question, but they do put on lasting meat, unlike dbol and drol.

[vindiesel]

Nothing that will replace a good cycle IMHO. I tried a few supps so far but they are all expensive and didn't give me the results I wanted.

[big shawn]

There are actually quite a few out there, real AAS, DESIGNED with bodybuilding in mind, that are extremely effective. To name a few: superdrol clones, pheraplex clones, halodrol clones, and IBE's Epistane. I am sure there are others, they are certainly not as obvious or notorious as any of these here. Now these are all methylated so long cycles are out of the question, but they do put on lasting meat, unlike dbol and drol.

Gotta agree i know several people who love the superdrol clones and get great results HEll i just ordered 3 bottles of I FORCE methadrol super clone.

[manimal78]

yo grunt76,
have you used any of those supps you mentioned? any of them you particularly recommend?

i looked at epistane, and it looks interesting.


btw guys, thanks for your replies..if you have anything to add, please dont hesistate to post.

There are actually quite a few out there, real AAS, DESIGNED with bodybuilding in mind, that are extremely effective. To name a few: superdrol clones, pheraplex clones, halodrol clones, and IBE's Epistane. I am sure there are others, they are certainly not as obvious or notorious as any of these here. Now these are all methylated so long cycles are out of the question, but they do put on lasting meat, unlike dbol and drol.

[kb91notch347]

Now these are all methylated so long cycles are out of the question

I think this is a major negative effect of the recent busts. People are going to use more of these products for longer periods of time.

KB

[manimal78]

most say 3 or 4 wks max.

[BuzzJames]

If you are looking for a pickmeupper try Powerdrive by Biotest. I didn't know how much it affected me until I ran out. It effects your neurotransmitters. The no caffeine Spike also gets me motivated.
I sound like a commercial for Biotest.
I would rather not take prohormones or quasi-steroids as the side affects may be worse than the real thing.
Regards

[Iron Warrior]

If you want to go with a natural Test booster then take a look at Novedex XT by Gaspari. I also like Powerfull in bulk powder since it's a better deal then USP's product.

Epistane has been getting great reviews. M-Drol (Superdrol clone) is a popular one and 1,4 AD is supposed to convert to boldenone.

[manimal78]

thanks, dudes!!!! if anyone has anything more to add,,please post up..


some good info here that i think could be helpful to us all.

[deadweight]

Now these are all methylated so long cycles are out of the question

I think this is a major negative effect of the recent busts. People are going to use more of these products for longer periods of time.

KB

I kinda disagree in a way because many people are willing to take a chance and still get AAS.Depends on the person needs i guess.

If you are looking for a pickmeupper try Powerdrive by Biotest. I didn't know how much it affected me until I ran out. It effects your neurotransmitters. The no caffeine Spike also gets me motivated.
I sound like a commercial for Biotest.
I would rather not take prohormones or quasi-steroids as the side affects may be worse than the real thing.
Regards

I do agree but before the prohormone was ban..I was taking countless mgs of many andros ......Years and years of E/D abuse and I didnt find any sides close to AAS....I guess its a matter of choice if you're going to gambel with you're liver.

[VIP BRO]

protein...glutamine...creatine...nitric oxide product...essential fatty acids...lots of olive oil...
good diet..u will grow!!!