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[Big J]

So im getting ready to use some Igf-1 for the first time. What should i expect, and what should i not expect? The only thing im worried about is if i have mesure it out on my own, can't that be kinda trickey? I heard that the one of the ways people fuck them selfs over and over dose it. So about 30-40mcg a day, 2days on 2days off??? I just wanna make sure i do it right. Thanks fellas

[ajdos]

Well 30 mcgs is a decent dose but as far as 2 on and 2 off that is a very debatable subject I personally run it straight through and try to hit the shots PWO split bilaterally so e.g. if I train delts and I do 20mcgs I would do 10mcgs in each delt left and right. On my non training days I do it in weaker bodyparts such as traps or back so long as I dont plan on training them the next day or so.

[lestatgear]

Post your results if you get a chance. I would be interested. Haven't seen any real conclusive info regarding results from experienced users.

[Big J]

Straight through for how long 4 weeks or so?? I worried about the mesaureing out part i dont want to hurt myself!!!

Ya bro i will keep a log on my progress!!! I really intrested so see what happens. Hopefully its all good!

[ajdos]

Straight through for how long 4 weeks or so?? I worried about the mesaureing out part i dont want to hurt myself!!!

Ya bro i will keep a log on my progress!!! I really intrested so see what happens. Hopefully its all good!

Use the whole mg 20mcgs should last 50 days which is perfect IMO.

Think like this if you have 100unit slin pin then that slin pin represents 1ml or 1000mcg so divide by 50 on the marks and you will see that it is 2 small hash marks- not the big ones tiny bit- I usually back fill my slin pin with around 5units of water and then draw the reconed IGf into the pin- this way the water flushes out the entire 20mgs from the pin.

[Grunt76]

I always add the BW or NaCl after the IGF-1 that way I am not wasting high-concentration IGF-1 when pushing the air out... I guess some guys don't bother pushing the air out though?

[cole617]

I like adding 2ml of AA to make measuring easier- especially with smaller doses. I have run numerous different IGF protocols- trying to find the most effective one; The one I felt had the most CONSISTENT gains was 40-60mcg EOD. I ran it straight through -even non training days in weak BP- my 1st cycle & I noticed my results started waining fast (Like after 3 weeks). EOD gains keep coming as long as you keep doing it.
This has been my experience anyway. Good luck & keep us posted on how you do.

cole617

I always add the BW or NaCl after the IGF-1 that way I am not wasting high-concentration IGF-1 when pushing the air out... I guess some guys don't bother pushing the air out though?

Listen to this bros advice- noone knows more on the subject! (Always use the NaCl myself too)

I always add the BW or NaCl after the IGF-1 that way I am not wasting high-concentration IGF-1 when pushing the air out... I guess some guys don't bother pushing the air out though?

Listen to this bros advice- noone knows more on the subject! (Always use the NaCl myself too)

[Big J]

Now let me ask some more Newbie questions. Do i have to get my Own NcAl or BW??? I heard NcAl is better why?

Cole617 when you said "AA" is that Acidic Acid to cut down on the burning you get from injection the IGF-1??
Thanks fellas J

[Grunt76]

The burn IS from acetic acid, not the IGF. NaCl is better than BW because BW has a little bit of a sting itself, whereas NaCl doesn't.

[TheGreatI]

Last year I got 50mg of LR3IGF-I 98% (We're not going to get into the grade difference because its off topic, but just to proof t wasn't no horse piss that many people unfortunately use nowadays). So, after 4 weeks I did see that it was nothing , but a waste of the product. I could do 1 vial (100mcg) a day bi-lat. and the only effect I felt was going to take nice dump quite often. Other than that, u'll see more effect on 10/10mcg x2 daily then 100/100mcg x2 daily after a month of running it. So imo 50 days course is not too good. But everyone is different an d some people will suggest u otherwise.


Oh I believe if bac. water stings because it has 0.9% BA in it. If so , then 30ml vials of NaCl solution have 0.9% of BA as well. I know for a fact that some GH like serostim has sterile water for reconstitution and that's why it cannot be used for the purposes that we use it unless there's a plan to use the whole vial at once. For AIDS people its kind of a normal thing since they gotta use 18 iu at a time. I know same thing u have to do with HCG 5000 iu kit that has 2 ml vial of NaCl ( without any BA in it). So if ur talking about 20-30ml NaCl american vials they should have that little itty bitty sting too.

[cole617]

Honestly I use the sodium chloride because it always came in the kit I purchased. Since you will be injecting immediately after adding the water, I would think either will be fine. The sting is tolerable-"no pain,no gain!"

Keep us posted on how your cycle goes.

I too tried a 7 day high dose IGF cycle & noticed that gains stopped very quickly. I agree the low,infrequent -but consistent- doses are the way to go.

cole617

[ISkiMB]

I`ve used IGF1 several times with great pumps off spot shooting. I like the NaCl water because it came recommended and just haven`t looked back on the using the other. I always ran it at 50mcg`s day, drawing the IGF first and then the water. Never shy about the water either as it tended to cut down on the stinging sensation. I usually drew the desired amount of IGF and then about 40 units of water per inj. I also hit it pre-workout..I know alot of guys recommend post...but i really liked the pumps I got shooting pre.

[Big J]

If i have to where can i find some NcAl?? Or BW? Thanks people will be starting after i get back from my Cruise!!!!!!

[Thor]

Pre Workout has always worked the best for me. Unbelievable pumps and the gains were better. No more than 40mcg a day for me, and three days a week till its gone.