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[clubraver28]

can anyone tell me what would be a good first time dosage for hgh please??


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[mcdaddy47]

I hope this helps for me I started with 1 unit aday 5 days on and 2 days off for the first 2 weeks . Then went up to 2 units aday for 5 days on and 2 days off and been on that for over 1 year so far its working for me Iam learn and strong I hope this helps also my age is 49 .

[Potimus]

More info about yourself please?

[redspy]

2 IU per day is a common starting dose.

[DirtyD]

2 IU per day is a common starting dose.

I have heard the same... I have also heard a good dose is 4IU per day, but I believe that is for someone with a little more experience... Not too sure, I have never used HGH...

[ajdos]

2-4 ius is a good spot- you dont need that much to see a difference.

[DirtyD]

2-4 ius is a good spot- you dont need that much to see a difference.

You're tha man AJ!!!

[greenleaf]

it depends on the kind your using. when using humatrop a use less but on average i would start with around 3 or 4 ius a day. if you get to high you will know because your hands will go numb and your fingers will swell up

[JrMaFia]

would 3iu at 3 months be a nice dose?

[Potimus]

would 3iu at 3 months be a nice dose?

Waste of time and money IMO.

[bigdave1972]

I LIKE 2.5 IU 2X DAILY. I DO THE 5 DAYS ON, 2-DAYS OFF ROUTINE. I WOULD RUN IT FOR AT LEAST 12 MONTHS

[Libra]

The following is a cut and paste from another board. It may be useful. As well as the ref's. I.M. me if you want the site info !!

There was a study done on continuous HGH use vs. every other day injections (ED vs. EOD for the sake of brevity), with a equal total weekly dose. Although it´s counterintuitive, every other day injections produced better total growth in the kids in this (2 and 4 year long) study.

Shooting HGH every other day more accurately replicates the pulsile frequency of HGH, and thus gave better results for growth (height) deficient children, HGH pulsatility is necessary for proper function of the HGH receptor.(10) Dosing in the EOD nature reduces incidence of any sort of withdrawal problems associated with normal HGH use, including regression or retardation of growth after cessation of therapy.

Therefore, I feel very comfortable speculating that the use of HGH in this manner, which more closely simulates the natural secretion pattern of it, allows the HGH receptors and the rest of the body to more efficiently recover from it, and this will result in much more muscle growth over time (although height was examined in the previous study). My recommendations therefore are 2 shots per day of .028iu/kg of bodyweight, taken every other day, for a minimum of 3months, and preferably for 2-3x that long, and preferably with the other synergistic compounds we´ve just taken a look at.

REF'S
Human Anatomy and Physiology, 6th Edition, John W. Hole jr.
J Appl Physiol 94: 2273-2281, 2003. First published February 14, 2003; doi:10.1152
Journal of Applied Physiology, Vol 77, Issue 1 23-29,
EFFECTS OF RECOMBINANT GROWTH HORMONE ON VISCERAL FAT ACCUMULATION: PILOT STUDY IN HIV-INFECTED ADOLESCENTS. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005 Apr 19; [Epub ahead of print]
Measures of submaximal aerobic performance evaluate and predict functional response to growth hormone (HGH) treatment in HGH-deficient adults. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1999 Dec;84(12):4570-7.
Hormonal responses to consecutive days of heavy-resistance exercise with or without nutritional supplementation. J Appl Physiol, Oct 1998; 85: 1544 - 1555.
Hormonal and growth factor responses to heavy resistance exercise protocols. J Appl Physiol, Oct 1990; 69: 1442-1450
High dose growth hormone exerts an anabolic effect at rest and during exercise in endurance-trained athletes.J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2003 Nov;88(11):5221-6.
Christ ER, Cummings MH, Westwood NB, Sawyer BM, Pearson TC, Sonksen PH, Russell-Jones DL. The importance of growth hormone in the regulation of erythropoiesis, red cell mass, and plasma volume in adults with growth hormone deficiency., J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1997 Sep;82(9):2985-90
The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism Vol. 87, No.8 3573-3577
Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2002 Mar;282(3):E601-7.
Testosterone blunts feedback inhibition of growth hormone secretion by experimentally elevated insulin-like growth factor-I concentrations.J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005 Mar;90(3):1613-7. Epub 2004 Dec 7.
Comparison of the Metabolic Effects of Raloxifene and Oral Estrogen in Postmenopausal and Growth Hormone-Deficient Women.J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005 Apr 26; [Epub ahead of print]
Serum insulin-like growth factor I levels in growth hormone-deficient adults: influence of sex steroids.Horm Res. 2004;62 Suppl 1:73-6.
Growth hormone enhances effects of endurance training on oxidative muscle metabolism in elderly women. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab, Nov 2000; 279: 989 - 996.
J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci 1998 May;53(3):M183-7

Also read the post titled... Thyroid Hormone & Growth Hormone... currently located on the last page of this category. Good info there if your new to the HGH world.

[playr101]

The following is a cut and paste from another board. It may be useful. As well as the ref's. I.M. me if you want the site info !!

There was a study done on continuous HGH use vs. every other day injections (ED vs. EOD for the sake of brevity), with a equal total weekly dose. Although it´s counterintuitive, every other day injections produced better total growth in the kids in this (2 and 4 year long) study.

Shooting HGH every other day more accurately replicates the pulsile frequency of HGH, and thus gave better results for growth (height) deficient children, HGH pulsatility is necessary for proper function of the HGH receptor.(10) Dosing in the EOD nature reduces incidence of any sort of withdrawal problems associated with normal HGH use, including regression or retardation of growth after cessation of therapy.

Therefore, I feel very comfortable speculating that the use of HGH in this manner, which more closely simulates the natural secretion pattern of it, allows the HGH receptors and the rest of the body to more efficiently recover from it, and this will result in much more muscle growth over time (although height was examined in the previous study). My recommendations therefore are 2 shots per day of .028iu/kg of bodyweight, taken every other day, for a minimum of 3months, and preferably for 2-3x that long, and preferably with the other synergistic compounds we´ve just taken a look at.

REF'S
Human Anatomy and Physiology, 6th Edition, John W. Hole jr.
J Appl Physiol 94: 2273-2281, 2003. First published February 14, 2003; doi:10.1152
Journal of Applied Physiology, Vol 77, Issue 1 23-29,
EFFECTS OF RECOMBINANT GROWTH HORMONE ON VISCERAL FAT ACCUMULATION: PILOT STUDY IN HIV-INFECTED ADOLESCENTS. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005 Apr 19; [Epub ahead of print]
Measures of submaximal aerobic performance evaluate and predict functional response to growth hormone (HGH) treatment in HGH-deficient adults. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1999 Dec;84(12):4570-7.
Hormonal responses to consecutive days of heavy-resistance exercise with or without nutritional supplementation. J Appl Physiol, Oct 1998; 85: 1544 - 1555.
Hormonal and growth factor responses to heavy resistance exercise protocols. J Appl Physiol, Oct 1990; 69: 1442-1450
High dose growth hormone exerts an anabolic effect at rest and during exercise in endurance-trained athletes.J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2003 Nov;88(11):5221-6.
Christ ER, Cummings MH, Westwood NB, Sawyer BM, Pearson TC, Sonksen PH, Russell-Jones DL. The importance of growth hormone in the regulation of erythropoiesis, red cell mass, and plasma volume in adults with growth hormone deficiency., J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1997 Sep;82(9):2985-90
The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism Vol. 87, No.8 3573-3577
Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2002 Mar;282(3):E601-7.
Testosterone blunts feedback inhibition of growth hormone secretion by experimentally elevated insulin-like growth factor-I concentrations.J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005 Mar;90(3):1613-7. Epub 2004 Dec 7.
Comparison of the Metabolic Effects of Raloxifene and Oral Estrogen in Postmenopausal and Growth Hormone-Deficient Women.J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005 Apr 26; [Epub ahead of print]
Serum insulin-like growth factor I levels in growth hormone-deficient adults: influence of sex steroids.Horm Res. 2004;62 Suppl 1:73-6.
Growth hormone enhances effects of endurance training on oxidative muscle metabolism in elderly women. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab, Nov 2000; 279: 989 - 996.
J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci 1998 May;53(3):M183-7

Also read the post titled... Thyroid Hormone & Growth Hormone... currently located on the last page of this category. Good info there if your new to the HGH world.

thats interesting.. never seen this before..

that would mean 2.5iu EOD for a 200 pound rat...
anyone using this protocol???


-playr101

[Libra]

The post was not for the amount taken (being the study was done on kids) but the way it was taken...ED vs EOD. Nor is my intention to state what one should or should not take. The way it was administered and the findings was what was interesting. Your more than welcome to READ the WHOLE ARTICLE if you would like the link.

[Darkhrse99]

Is HGH hard to come by?