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[Born2Juice4Ever]

VIPers,


So there I was sitting comfortably after nearly 1.5 months since what I thought was "successful" PCT...how wrong was I!!


To give you a quick background on my recent QUICK cycle:

Length:
8 Weeks

Compounds and MGs used:
Test prop 1000mgs weekly
Test cypio and enanthate 800mgs weekly
Winstrol 50-75mgs ED


**** I started cypio or enan roughly 1 week prior to prop---both kicked in at around the same time*****

Objective:
To gain an estimated 10LBS

Success:
8lbs---starting point 212lbs---ending 220 and maintained 12% but could be closer to 11 or maybe less even.
I am very happy with the results of the cycle.
Diet was consistent to a clean cutting phase. Monitored heavily the carbs. Did have heavy cheat meals every 4 days however.

So there I was, I started to feel a lump right at my nipple..>WTF!!! I am prone to gyno when I even look at bottle of Deca, but that was not used.
I have in the past VERY few times developed gyno from cypio, don't ask why or how.

Even after appropriate PCT, the lump remained!! I let it go for 3 weeks. I also notice that my sex drive was high, but pecker was not strong as in the past.
This past Monday I jumped on 40mgs nova and 50mgs clomid ED...lump 5 days later is almost gone.
Now that the cycle has been long gone, I should feel sexually strong again, which is not the case.
For now I will run nolva and clomid for another 5 days (10 days all together) and re-establish normal life activity again.


Thoughts on this?



B2J

[Kosher Fried]

any time i've had a lump (twice) i've taken 1.25mg of Letro ed for 7-10 and it's gone...on cycle or not....then i would maintain it (if on) 1.25mg e3d for the remainder of the cycle....its worked for me

[deadweight]

I had a lump once and didnt take nothing but droped the test down and went away.Other then that ive never had any gyno problems.

B2J4E..thats a hell of alot of Prop..dw

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Yes DW---prop and I go hand in hand

Back in the days, when I was 250lbs I used to cycle 3k weekly of test...now a days, I am MUCH smaller but also smarter----been around 1.5 years since I got smarter lol


I am happy at 220lbs and I no longer want to be BIG BIG. Too much drama.



B2J

[\SHINE/]

high doses of Nolva only always killed my sex drive ,
lower the nolva and clomid and add aromasin.


Problem is with high nolva/clomid doses for pct SHBG can increase as well with total estrogen levels, you eventualty get estrogen rebound with high prolactin levels which will kill ur sex drive.


(hyperprolactinemia)


I'd Lower the dose of nolva to 10mg ed or at least taper down to 10mged for a few weeks and add aromasin in @25 ed for a few weeks.
Use the aromasin couple weeks pas the nolva. (aromasin completely gets pas the negative feed back loop with out agravating aromatase protein levels as well)

peace.

[catadrioptic]

I prefer to user raloxifene and toremifene for my pct and I prefer them over the nolva/clomid route.

[Razor D]

what not any HCG and igf-1 always kicks me right back in a couple of weeks , i started doing this and got stronger post cycle

[deadweight]

Yes DW---prop and I go hand in hand

Back in the days, when I was 250lbs I used to cycle 3k weekly of test...now a days, I am MUCH smaller but also smarter----been around 1.5 years since I got smarter lol


I am happy at 220lbs and I no longer want to be BIG BIG. Too much drama.



B2J

Yeah you right.Trying to stay big takes alot of effort and time....And alot of test for that matter.Its def a big time effort staying very massive.Im thinking about dropping down a bit before long.....dw

[DirtyD]

Some Letro should get rid of that lump, but your sex drive may deminish bro... If you are going to take some Letro to help with that lump, you may also want to have Viagra, Levitra or better yet some Cialis on hand for sexual activity bro...

Dang you do use a lot of Prop!!! I love Prop too...

[VIP BRO]

I know many are thinking this...if u were cranking 1 gram of prop
and 800 mgs of e....what is up with expecting only 10lbs and only gaining 8...OMG!!!!!!!!!! Over kill with the dosages and underkill with the results.... in my humble opinion.

Either you must train like a Urckle, eat like a worm, or had bunk sauce. Don't know about you, but sheitttttt man....that was enough for 3 cycles with 10lbs each.

Okay...sorry..didnt want to jack ur thread..but still....please tell me that gear was underground?

just read the rest..back in the day u were hitting 3 grams..SHIEET..way too much..but then again...250 is 250...good thing u still have your health bro.

Man..makes my close friend who used to do 200mgs of whatever...seem like a little boy..hehe