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My Brother is starting his 20 weeks. How would you run the following for strictly cutting purposes - Proposed cycle length is 20 weeks

Test suspension 100mg/ml
Test enthante 300mg/ml
Tren enthanate
Winny 75mg/ml
Var


The way I am thinking is

Start off with the suspension at 100mg e.o.d and 2 shots of the enthanate with Winny EOD
Stop winny at week 8 and start Tren enthanate
Stop suspension also at week 8 and bump the Test enthanate to 900mg/week
Restart Winny at week 15 ED
Restart Suspension at 15 ED
Start Var at 15 ED

Adex while suspension Nolva 10mg all through to prevent bloat
HCG 500 iu 2x a week from week 8



Cycle
Week 1-8 Test No Ester - 100mg e.o.d
Week 1-8 Test enthatate - 600mg every week
Week 1-8 Winny 75 E.o.d
Week 9-15 Test enthanate 900mg e.w.
Week 9-15 Tren enthanate 800mg e.w.
Week 15-20 Winny 75mg ED
Week 15-20 TNE 100mg ED
Week 14-20 Var 80mg ED
Week 1-20 HCG 500 iu e.w.
Week 2-8 and 15-20 Adex
Week 1-20 Nolvadex 10mg

PCT
Toremifene + Clomid


Thoughts?

[VIP BRO]

Cutting?
I would rethink all of that if cutting is the goal. Suspension...out...y enthanate is upped to 900 the I don't know. When looking at the half life...just makes no sense to me.

Using it as the base, test is king in my book, I would run it much much lower. The tren..way too freaking high in my opinion too. Pretty standard to run that 75mg eod.

I think there is 3 cycles worth of gear there.

My .02 is to always use the least amount of anything to get the results.

Unless your brother is a pro...I think 20 wks is just way too damn long. 8-12 wks..on..then 8-12 wks off..then another 8-12 wks on.

He has to water-based there..test susp and winny.

I would suggest running T.e at 200-400mgs per wk the entire time. Run the tren at the front end the first 4-6 wks at 75mg eod, then replace it with the winny at 75- 150 mgs eod the following 6 wks.

The var could be used mid way and then out run the cycle because of the mechanism it works with. If he is wanting to cut...he could also use igf at the end of the cycle with the var. post cycle looks good...I know some guys who would use the hcg right from the start.

Most of my knowledge comes from books and Dave P's assistance in real life.

Safety is always first in my book. Looks like a lot of choo choo there.

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Winny could be hit eod injects and inbetween days take oral or w tabs to help lower shbg even better.

leave out nolva during ur cycle, it lowers nat igf and gh to bad, save it for pct purposes. Use a bit of letro for bloat and water, letro actualy boost igf some 20% Nolva doesn't block the effects of estro on aldosterone produc.


If ur using Test suspen to jumpstart things fine but I'd rethink the dose of test for cutting, 400-600 is plenty for this.
Tren 75 eod is fine , acetate hangs in there jus long enuff for that.

running W for 14 weeks could be a bit tuff on ur liver values, make sure he pays attention to the liver sups! Since anavar is a lot more liver friendly I think one could get away with 20 weeks using var at the end of cycle. Imo a 16 week run should be more than enuff time to achieve ur goals though.