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#1 deadweight

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 07:57 PM

Just the other day i got on the subject with a unsteroid user...He really had my BP sky high...Me and this little fuck wennt back and fourth about( is useing steroids cheatting?)How can anyone give any facts that useing steroids is a form of cheatting..?Hell if you ask me then the whole fucking world is a cheatter...I told him do you take anything....He said yes...he takes this supplement and that supplement and and number of other things......Kinda seems like him calling the cattle black because here is this guy takeing things to help him build muscle.....The only differnce the stuff hes taking is legal......Legal or not its use for the same reasons....Goes to show you how hypocritical the world has become...To me its like right and wrong ,good or evil,have been inverted by humans just to ease there own self conventions.......Anything to accommadate what they feel to be facts....Perhaps im the only one that sees clearly in a world full of shit.Talking heads clutter at the mouth about steroids are cheatting and really cant back shit up or prove to me that other then the whole fucking world is cheatting....Whats good for one is good for all..Thats how i see it.Hell if steroids are consider cheatting then the world needs to delete all record holders in all sports because one time or another they used something to give them the edge to win...Hell it could have been speed they took to win ....So taking speed is cheatting too ...RIGHT?........It has been proven time and time again that this world allways needs a scape goat to point the finger at.......To bad steroids had to be singled out...But steroids didnt ban steroids..Man blameing steroids for mishappens is what banned steroids..Fucking sheep heads running there mouth without even backing it up.....How the fuck can they pass a law to ban something if they dont have ANY PROVEN FACTS?...No standard of meausment to conduct anything other then ones own bullshit.So everything is a fraud it seems......And its clear that anyone that doesnt use steroids will allways fall back on steroids are not legal so its considered cheatting....But little do they know i want to beat there ass and make them listen to me.....dw

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 11:51 PM

I DON'T SEE HOW ADDING MORE OF A NATURAL SUBSTANCE MY BODY MAKES ON ITS OWN IS CHEATING?

CHEATING WHO?

MYSELF?

OUT OF WHAT?

EXACTLY.

THESE MORAL WORLD POLICE THAT SEEM TO FLOOD ALL FACETS OF LIFE, SEEMINGLY ENOUGH, ARE USUALLY THE SAME ONES WHO HAVE A CLOSET FULL OF THEIR OWN SKELETONS, FAR WORSE THAN ANY SINGLE PERSON WISHING TO ATTAIN A FITNESS GOAL, USING SUPPLEMENTAL TESTOSTERONE AND ITS DERIVATIVES.

THESE ARE THE SAME NITWITS WHO WORRY ABOUT MY USE OF AN ENDOGENOUSLY PRODUCED SUBSTANCE, WHILE THE ECONOMY AND THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT SLIDES INTO THE SHITTER.

FUCK CONFORMITY!

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 01:21 AM

Its cheating if its in the rules of a competion or organization and someone doesn't follow the rules...not much different than recording an NFL team's practice when its against the rules. If its against the rules that someone has agreed to....cheating.

As far as cosmetic....I would have to believe that AS is much more safer than gastric bypass, lapband procedure, cosmetic surgery, etc.

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 05:21 AM

Yea I here that crap all the time. I don't give such monkies the time of day.


Guess i'm jus a big cheater!!! lol

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 06:11 AM

Cheating- by websters: tp gain and unfair advantage upon ones opponent.

So I guess when the fiber glass pole for the pole vault came out and the US was the only ones to have it -THEY WERE CHEATING IN THE OLYMPICS!
or when that girl broke the world record in the freestyle swimming by 20 seconds or some crazy shit and they asked her HOW? and she said she was using a new swim suit called the slime suit which reduced water resistance and sped up her time- SHE WAS CHEATING- since she was the only athlete to have it...
yeah I call bullshit- just because its a chem everyone shrinks back and calls it voodoo and poison- what crock of hippocrytical bullshit!

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 03:16 PM

QUOTE(ajdos @ Oct 26 2008, 05:11 PM) View Post

Cheating- by websters: tp gain and unfair advantage upon ones opponent.

So I guess when the fiber glass pole for the pole vault came out and the US was the only ones to have it -THEY WERE CHEATING IN THE OLYMPICS!
or when that girl broke the world record in the freestyle swimming by 20 seconds or some crazy shit and they asked her HOW? and she said she was using a new swim suit called the slime suit which reduced water resistance and sped up her time- SHE WAS CHEATING- since she was the only athlete to have it...
yeah I call bullshit- just because its a chem everyone shrinks back and calls it voodoo and poison- what crock of hippocrytical bullshit!

Great points made////dw

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 10:37 PM

Damn good point bro but the fact of the matter still remains........We can argue this till we're blue in the face but when the public has their heads so far up their own asses it's kinda hard to hear you and thus understand reasoning.



QUOTE(ajdos @ Oct 26 2008, 06:11 PM) View Post

Cheating- by websters: tp gain and unfair advantage upon ones opponent.

So I guess when the fiber glass pole for the pole vault came out and the US was the only ones to have it -THEY WERE CHEATING IN THE OLYMPICS!
or when that girl broke the world record in the freestyle swimming by 20 seconds or some crazy shit and they asked her HOW? and she said she was using a new swim suit called the slime suit which reduced water resistance and sped up her time- SHE WAS CHEATING- since she was the only athlete to have it...
yeah I call bullshit- just because its a chem everyone shrinks back and calls it voodoo and poison- what crock of hippocrytical bullshit!



#8 deadweight

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 01:16 AM

Its easy for a non user to say steroids are a form of cheatting.....I say,if someone is training for any sport and that person is not willing enough to do steroids to progress then he or she simply doesnt want to do whatever it takes to win or proceed to the next level....They should very well give up now....dw

#9 MissKBuff

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 03:57 AM

I USED to think it was similar to cheating, however, I changed my mind, and I guess I now have somewhat of a mixed opinion about this subject. On the one hand, I don't see it as cheating, only excersising one's resources to further improve the ability of the human body.

It's when it comes to sports that I think it's similar to cheating, ugh that's a shitty word eh? lol....I think that everyone should be able to use it, it's just that if some can't for some reason, than it can be un-fair...

If most of the shit wasn't illegal, it would not be cheating....

I am making absolutely no sense, lol.....I can't explain....


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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:57 PM

I feel that if it's stated no performance enhancing drugs then don't do the comp. I would call that cheating.

But, when it come to making a living with your body..why not have every advantage possible. Let's say football...you'd want to be the best you can be to make more money so it makes sense to keep your body / health in tip top shape. Once it's gone..so is your livelyhood.

I also see using AAS for the regular person who is well educated on use...to aid in living a longer healthier lifestyle. Makes sense to me.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 03:07 AM

QUOTE(any1uno @ Oct 28 2008, 09:57 AM) View Post

I feel that if it's stated no performance enhancing drugs then don't do the comp. I would call that cheating.

But, when it come to making a living with your body..why not have every advantage possible. Let's say football...you'd want to be the best you can be to make more money so it makes sense to keep your body / health in tip top shape. Once it's gone..so is your livelyhood.

I also see using AAS for the regular person who is well educated on use...to aid in living a longer healthier lifestyle. Makes sense to me.


Excellent point biggrin.gif

#12 Alpha

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:30 AM

Im not a user yet , but i just laugh when someone says that

#13 mick_the_brick

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:48 PM


It's the publics perception of this TBH that is the issue...

Something that will never change given the media coverage etc...

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 07:01 AM

here is the problem..people who dont use steroids think it is some miracle drug..u take it and bammmmmmm u get strong and huge.. but what they dont take into consideration is the time we put in the gym and the intensity we put into our workouts... u also have to eat right..they dont see that there is a lot more to steroids then just shooting up or popping a pill... they just give us an edge is all..just like over the counter fat burners and pro hormones....

SO I SAY FUCK THEM.......

i can go on and on..i here it all the time in the gym..

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 07:31 AM

This is like discussing politics or religion.....no two people will ever agree to the exact same thing.

I guess my thoughs are if you are participating in a sport where the rules say they are illegal, then it is cheating. Whether you agree with their reasons to make it illegal or not, the fact is thats what the rule book says and if you dont agree you should be in a sport where they are legal.

As an athlete that has used AAS in very competitive sports I can tell you that it definitely gave me an edge while on. Also it makes it easier to put on muscle, even though you eventually lose most of what you put on once you stop, it makes it easier to put that weight on naturally again, also it keeps you from hitting a plateau for an extended period.

No disrespect to anyones opinions here, they are all great. I have trouble using the word "cheating" but I definitely believe AAS gives you an edge in sports. I guess I have trouble calling it cheating because I feel like AAS is a lifestyle and not the deviant behavior its made out to be.





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