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#1 Big J

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 10:30 AM

So i gave my bottle of T3/Cynomel to a buddy of mine. I'v never use the stuff before, so i wanna give him the right info on how to use it. 50mcg sound about right? Split up into two doesage. I did tell him he needs to be on a pretty strict diet and his protien intake needs to stay high. Now all he as is the one bottle that i gave him which is 100 tabs, 25mcg per tab. Can he just run it till its gone?

For those who have experience with use this drug, Let me know if there any tricks to this stuff, i know it can have some sides so he needs to watch out. Kinda scary messin with your Thyroid. Thanks J

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 11:32 AM

and he's taking this T-3 with what?

#3 Big J

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 02:19 PM

just by itself. He hasnt started takin it yet.


#4 bigj9

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 01:27 AM

if you only have 100-----
1 a day for 7 days
2 day for 7 days split am pm
3 day for 21 days evenly split thru out the day
2 day for 7
1 day for 7
ramping back down is important tp let your natural levels come up before stoping the t3

#5 ThatBro

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 05:24 AM

QUOTE(bigj9 @ Jan 3 2009, 01:27 AM) View Post

if you only have 100-----
1 a day for 7 days
2 day for 7 days split am pm
3 day for 21 days evenly split thru out the day
2 day for 7
1 day for 7
ramping back down is important tp let your natural levels come up before stoping the t3


Just for conversation sake wouldnt it be a good idea to let your T3 levels drop quickly so that the body feels the shock and thus bringing natty levels back faster. I mean its the same logic I use with AAS my doc seems to think that the body reacts best when there is the greatest desparity in hormone levels other wise the system makes a gradual come back. Im sayn your wrong by any means just wanted to kkknow what you think on the topic.

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 06:59 AM

Well yea , the taper down is what they used to do and realy doesn't help the body to obtain homeostasis any quicker.

I assume he's trying to loose a few pounds?



#7 Razor D

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 07:25 AM

this what i show to my people


Cytomel (Mexican Cynomel) Synthetic T-3 and Clenbuterol Stacking - A Quick Weight Loss Solution

This is to be a far from scientific article, one based, rather, in practical experience in losing weight and helping others to lose weight. We are not, on the average, concerned with obese individuals, but those who have packed on an additional 12-25 pounds beyond what was expected in a traditional steroid cycle, and the weeks beyond.

Not all of us will gain this type of weight during a cycle, but those of us who use a high protein / high calorie diet in conjunction with heavy weight lifting, accompanied by a medium to high dosed androgenic (i.e., Dianabol, Testosterone, Trenbolone (Finaplix or Component T-H)) steroid cycle, will almost always pack on an additional 6-20 pounds of pure lard. Granted that Burger King, Hooters, and Papadeux are not on the traditional bodybuilders menu, many of us are either forced, or by personal inclination, choose to indulge in calorie/fat bombs in order to provide the necessary building blocks for muscle.

Who, after all, can subsist on 3-5 protein shakes a day? I certainly can't, and from what I've seen of the advice on the boards, a Whopper or 2 every other day seems to be the prescribed regimen for gaining LBM - the prized Lean Body Mass.

Let's look at that paradigm for a moment - LBM. Sure and granted, we all seek this Holy Grail of Bodybuilding, but too many novices and mid-level bodybuilders alike sacrifice gaining pure muscle mass, in favor of gaining 2-6 pounds of LBM with a $400 - $1100 steriod cycle - all because they want to stay lean.

I might be wrong (it's been known to happen, albeit once a year or so), but if I'm going to invest that kind of dough, I want to see some by God muscle appear. In order to build the kind of muscle I expect from a cycle, I need to consume 4000 - 6000 calories a day, depending upon what I'm doing (Touch Football, Softball, or Indoor Soccer season). Those calories don't ALL go towards LBM, many (sometimes too many) go towards pure lard.
Don't get me wrong, the intensity you apply in the gym does, in fact, burn some serious fat, while at the same time channeling blood, nutrients, and the cherished PUMP to your muscles. However, if you intend to gain serious mass, and here I give kudos to the WarPig, you'll bulk and bloat.

Damnit, the bloat. We don't want to look like Beachballs, we want to look like Footballs - tight, tapered, lean in all the right places. How to eat the necessary calories, the necessary protein, the absolutely essential, energy giving Carbohydrates, without the dreaded bloat?

Here's where the first application of T-3 comes in. I won't quote any studies (there are few), but from personal experience, and the experience of those amatuer and mid-level bodybuilders I've helped, a 25-50mcg dosage of T-3, per day, will help to reduce bloating and water retention, while at the same time enhancing the effect of whatever steriod (androgenic or anabolic) the user chooses. It won't, by any means, keep the mass frompiling on, but it will eliminate the dreaded moon face and the hideous stomach bloat.

The second application of T-3 is intended to quickly reduce the blubber produced by a serious mass cycle, and ALWAYS, always includes Clenbuterol. Say, for example, you've done a Raver Cycle - 2g Test, 600mg Deca, and 50-75mg Dbol a day, for 12 weeks. You've devoured 3 Cornish Game Hens at a meal, wolfed down a double Whopper with cheese, but no Mayo every other day, and forced yourself to eat spaghetti with meatballs, cottage cheese, herb-seasoned chicken breasts, pork tenderloins, meatloaf, oatmeal, grits, and eggs, eggs, eggs, tuna tuna tuna, along with 2-3 daily protein shakes.

Trust me - you're fat. You look big as shit in the mirror, but you have no abs, no separation, and no definition. The remedy?

Weigh yourself. For every pound, use 1mcg of T-3. If you weigh 180, and you look fat, use 175mcg of T-3. If you weigh 250, and you look fat, use 250mcg of T-3. Round the dosage down to the nearest 25mcg, and stack Clenbuterol at 5-12 tabs a day for 6 weeks. Follow a CKD diet, such as Body Opus or Animalobolics, do 15-20 minutes of Cardio for the first 3 weeks, and watch the fat shed.

T-3 by itself produces sweat like there's no tomorrow - you'll have wet spots under your arms, under your pecs, in the crack of your ass, and, on your forehead. You might get the shakes.

T-3, stacked with Clenbuterol, will give you all of the above mentioned sweats, along with the shakes...your hands, your legs (stairs are really a bitch), and your neck, on occasion. If you have a job like mine, where the shakes are undesirable, use a potassium supplement or eat 2-3 bananas a day, it will alleviate them.

In summary, T-3 has two uses - eliminating bloat and water retention during a cycle, and rapid weight loss after a cycle. One of the things to remember while using this drug is that it DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE between LBM and pure fat - it eats tissue, period. I used T-3 exactly twice before figuring out that it should never be used without at least 400mg of Testosterone, preferably, in dieting mode, Propionate. A post cycle regimen of 1mcg T-3 per pound of bodyweight, along with Clenbuterol and a 50-100mg / day dosage of Test Prop, will work absolute wonders.

And now, for the Raver challenge (the third in 14 months) - If anyone - ANYONE can produce scientific, verifiable evidence that synthetic T-3 (Cytomel, Cynomel) causes thyroid shutdown in humans after prolonged, high dose use - I'll send them $100. A major medical journal, a study by a top 10 ranked pharmaceutical firm, or verifiable results of a personal medical evaluation (verifiable via documentation and confirmation by the physician) are acceptable. Barring that, let's not hear any further argument about the horrible side effects of T-3.

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 11:01 AM

[if you only have 100-----
1 a day for 7 days
2 day for 7 days split am pm
3 day for 21 days evenly split thru out the day
2 day for 7
1 day for 7
ramping back down is important tp let your natural levels come up before stoping the t3
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Just for conversation sake wouldnt it be a good idea to let your T3 levels drop quickly so that the body feels the shock and thus bringing natty levels back faster. I mean its the same logic I use with AAS my doc seems to think that the body reacts best when there is the greatest desparity in hormone levels other wise the system makes a gradual come back. Im sayn your wrong by any means just wanted to kkknow what you think on the topic.


this is only MY personal experiences(i know a few others that the same thing happens too)---i use t3 for contest prep only. i use 176 pills ramped in a sim style as i stated above. the times that i just stoped cold turkey i gained tremendous amounts (to me anyway) of fat very fast. the time that i ramped back down slowly this didnt happen- i was able to keep a pretty low bodyfat % for a while. like i said this is from my personal exp only but from all the research ive done thats the proper way to do it.......and i agree with razor-there are no published cases of thyroid shutdown from t3 abuse

#9 Big J

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 01:42 PM

This helps out a lot fellas! Now how long should someone run this if they had more? And i have also read that runnin it with Clen does help alot more, but is it necessary? BigJ9 how clean where you keepin your diet while runnin this?

Razor D you made a lot of good points, thanks dude! Your second application is what he is going for. Thats why i ask about the clen and T3 together.

Now what do you fella's think About Innovative-reseach and there T3 and clen? I have run there clen before, but got the sweets so bad i stop about a week into it. If my buddy trys this, can he expect the side's to go away with time, or is it like this the whole way through? Thanks j

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 11:54 PM

i run for 8 weeks 2/d for a week 3/d for a week then 4/d for 4 weeks--show will be at the last part of the fourth week then i ramp back down 2d for week the 1 day for a week. diet was VERY clean(everything was weighed and measured). i also took clen-which helps tremendously!!!!! from my exp the sides from the t3 do not go away but then clen effects go down a lil bit -like the shakiness and the empty headed feeling. hope this helps

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 11:02 AM

Well there ya go , Razor D gave ya some good guide lines.

I will say T-3 and Clen make me a erdible sum-A-Bitch!

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 01:00 PM

Very cool BigJ9, I have run clen and t3 but I didnt know specificly if the EDO system reacted the same as the HPTA. Apreciate the answers.

Shine - Clen makes me really paranoid, really bad so I cant stand it. Got a bottle of Helios just chillin

#13 Big J

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 07:26 AM

How much clen should i run with the T3? Alos should i stop any other fat burnners im taking while runnin this cycle?

My Innovative-reseach product came today. Did anybody every use there T3???

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 09:05 AM

this is how i run clen(everyone has there own way)
2day for 2 days
3day for 2 days
4 day for 2 days
5 day for 2 days
6 day for 7 days
doses split evenly throughout the day 20mcg pills
take 2 weeks off
then same as above


#15 Big J

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 03:29 PM

I dont have pill i have the lquid verson. But should still be the same. So do you mean 2 days on 2 days off, 3days on 2 days off ect?

How did your workouts go with the T3/clen? Did you feel like shit?





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