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[mugzy]

My lower back has been in pain for 3 months. The muscles are fine, I think. I have had x-rays taken and the disks look fine. The Chiropractor says it is probably soft tissue and recommends I keep seeing him once a week....of course. To me it sounds like a herniated disk only I don't have the pain down my leg. When I sit for a while I have to slowly stand up and stretch and then I'm fine... at least enough to function. Also in the morning the pain is always more prevelant........ any recommendations, experiences to share or diagnosis's for ol'mugzy?

[NO LIMITS]

Alright bro. I got the same thing. Thought mine was a hamstring, pain shooting down left leg and into upper calve. Took x-rays and all that shit. Did MRI next. Confirmed herniated disc (herniated, pertruded, ruptred, bulging) same shit. So next I went to a nurosergeon and he read MRI (take in consideration cuttng is what they do) he said that mine was out enough that it is hitting the nerve. The disc is the one between my L4 and L5 which is the bottom two. Same as you hits me big tim when first wake up and get out of bed. Lay flat on your back on floor and get someone to raise one leg at a time, lock knee, and get whoever to slowly puch your foot towards the ceiling and see where pain if any hits. Mine hits if I have leg up in air and try to lock out knee. Doc told me that it was a slim chance that mine would heal on its own and they probably would have to do minimal advasive surgery. That means they go in, make a 1 1/2'' slit in back, go in ortho, cut the off the part of the disc touching nerve, tuck nerve out of the way and seal with some type of sealant shit. He said it would be a 15% chane that I could do it again. I take anti-inflammatory meds. These help alot. I got a scrip a percoset for extreme pain but only had to take these 3 times so far. I told doc that when wife has to wheel me in there we will do it. He said that is my choice and I only chance future nerve damage. I haven't tried a chiro yet caue I work so much. If chiro is working stick with it but mine has been going on for around 5 months now. Not getting any worse but still there and it lets me know from time to time. Good luck with it bro. Hit me with nay questions you have on it and I try to help.

[Darkhrse99]

I herniated my disk last may. It's just now feeling better. You really have to be careful on heavy lifts. I tried shrugs last week for 225 and I felt it immediately on the 2 rep. I still won't do deadlift,(which I hurt my back doing deadlifts). Take you time to recover. My Chiropractor really helped my back. Before this I never went to a chiro and heard bad things about them. I now think if you can find the right one it helps a lot.

[deadweight]

Herniated disk last as long as your alive...Nothing you can do to heal it or fix it.......Some days are worst then others....lifts like squats and deadlifts ...bent over rolls can flair it up...Bending over alot can make it flair up ....Drugs such as Advil helps alot for me...Pain killer doesnt even touch the pain...Sitting up in one place for a good wile makes it hurt worst....Ive been living with this shit for 10 years now...It comes and goes...This is why i dont do deadlifts to much any more.....I can only pick out of 2 main lifts..the squat or deadlift.I picked the squat as a basic movement...After working the sqaut heavy and hard i feel my back for 3 days ......I have learned to work around the problem....Maybe you might have to do the same.Figure it out.I wish i had something postive to bring ya but i rather be blut then give you flase promises...You can have operation to fix it.I rather not...Nothing really is proven to work.

[monsoon]

I too have a herniated disk. Doc said it was biggest he'd seen and wanted to cut. I said no and he said that it would still be three months till I could go back to work. I never missed a day. They keep calling me to schedule an appointment.
The way I found out about it was not back pain, but I couldn't feel the bottom of my left foot so I kept tripping.

[gasnazi]

I too have a herniated disk. Doc said it was biggest he'd seen and wanted to cut. I said no and he said that it would still be three months till I could go back to work. I never missed a day. They keep calling me to schedule an appointment.
The way I found out about it was not back pain, but I couldn't feel the bottom of my left foot so I kept tripping.

I agree with deadweight..........good luck with that... hurt mine in 03, put a halt my lifting career for a long time, I could not move for weeks, worst pain I ever had. still hurts almost everyday, as long as I don't do any seated row type motions I am usually ok. Physical therapy taught me how to recognize if I was irritating it, and how to help keep it in place. no pain meds work....I have to use prednisone from time to time, but hate using that stuff.

[Grunt76]

I had a herniated disc and I healed it myself. I have walked numerous people through getting back to 95%-100% on their herniated discs.

Why can I do this and doctors can't? One doctor wants to cut you up, the chiro wants you to come back every week, the endo wants nothing to do with it, who WANTS YOU TO HEAL? No one, there's no money in it. Well I actually help, yes I get some $ out of it but it is more than worth it. Sorry for the shameless plug here, but it is true and I have people who aren't shy about saying so.

YOU CAN HEAL A HERNIATED DISC. It is a pretty involved, complex matter that will require at least 3 months of continuous nursing. But you choose: surgery may well not improve anything, and living a life in pain is no fun, no matter that you get a script for the better pain meds.

[gasnazi]

I had a herniated disc and I healed it myself. I have walked numerous people through getting back to 95%-100% on their herniated discs.

Why can I do this and doctors can't? One doctor wants to cut you up, the chiro wants you to come back every week, the endo wants nothing to do with it, who WANTS YOU TO HEAL? No one, there's no money in it. Well I actually help, yes I get some $ out of it but it is more than worth it. Sorry for the shameless plug here, but it is true and I have people who aren't shy about saying so.

YOU CAN HEAL A HERNIATED DISC. It is a pretty involved, complex matter that will require at least 3 months of continuous nursing. But you choose: surgery may well not improve anything, and living a life in pain is no fun, no matter that you get a script for the better pain meds.

I had a herniated disc and I healed it myself. I have walked numerous people through getting back to 95%-100% on their herniated discs.

Why can I do this and doctors can't? One doctor wants to cut you up, the chiro wants you to come back every week, the endo wants nothing to do with it, who WANTS YOU TO HEAL? No one, there's no money in it. Well I actually help, yes I get some $ out of it but it is more than worth it. Sorry for the shameless plug here, but it is true and I have people who aren't shy about saying so.

YOU CAN HEAL A HERNIATED DISC. It is a pretty involved, complex matter that will require at least 3 months of continuous nursing. But you choose: surgery may well not improve anything, and living a life in pain is no fun, no matter that you get a script for the better pain meds.

I would be interested in hearing about that sometime grunt....I shoveled snow for my gf last month and was in pain for a week, I actually have degenerative disc disease now, but has not seemed to get any worse in the past few yrs.

[Grunt76]

I would be interested in hearing about that sometime grunt....I shoveled snow for my gf last month and was in pain for a week, I actually have degenerative disc disease now, but has not seemed to get any worse in the past few yrs.

Sure, just shoot me a PM anytime.

[LiLCanada]

I'm in physical therapy for this right now. Its hurting like a bia. Over the counter's dont touch it and vicoden is a joke.

[piotr]

first of all mugzy get an MRI...

second, if it is a herniated disc, then whether you get surgery really depends on the pain... if its manageable / tolerable then just push through, wheras if its impairing your quality of life then consider it... if you have significant pain the surgery will almost definitely make a huge difference... just remember that the disc will never be 100%, even after surgery, and that you will have to adjust your behaviour accordingly...

grunt... thats a big call... lol... i'm not gonna debate that BUT one thing i need to say is that if i understand you to be saying that doctors and surgeons are only interesting in healing you if they can get a great payday out of it (your not that explicit but you definitely appear to be implying that) then i have to completely disagree with you... a few of my good friends are in the medicial profession (a general practitioner, a dental surgeon and a general surgeon)... i've known them for years and they have a lot of integrity and a strong sense of responsibiltiy... i know for a fact they take their responsibility to their patients and their profession extremely seriously... sure they make some good coin (especially the dental surgeon) but they place their patients' welfare first... so you cant make generalisations like that... in fact my own personal experience bears out otherwise

piotr

[Grunt76]

first of all mugzy get an MRI...

second, if it is a herniated disc, then whether you get surgery really depends on the pain... if its manageable / tolerable then just push through, wheras if its impairing your quality of life then consider it... if you have significant pain the surgery will almost definitely make a huge difference... just remember that the disc will never be 100%, even after surgery, and that you will have to adjust your behaviour accordingly...

grunt... thats a big call... lol... i'm not gonna debate that BUT one thing i need to say is that if i understand you to be saying that doctors and surgeons are only interesting in healing you if they can get a great payday out of it (your not that explicit but you definitely appear to be implying that) then i have to completely disagree with you... a few of my good friends are in the medicial profession (a general practitioner, a dental surgeon and a general surgeon)... i've known them for years and they have a lot of integrity and a strong sense of responsibiltiy... i know for a fact they take their responsibility to their patients and their profession extremely seriously... sure they make some good coin (especially the dental surgeon) but they place their patients' welfare first... so you cant make generalisations like that... in fact my own personal experience bears out otherwise

piotr

Mostly what I am saying is that each medical profession is limited as to what they can do. The surgeon thinks of cutting, not of hormones. The PT will help you when you are pain-free, the GP will give you pain meds, etc. No single specialist has every tool in his toolbox to really repair a back. When did you hear of a surgeon saying, oh no, we won't operate, instead we'll give you high dose GH to rebuild your disc. That's an endo's work. And endo's will test you and say your GH levels are fine. And so on.

So while they may well look for the patient's welfare, they aren't using ALL the tools of the WHOLE medical field to that end.

[LiLCanada]

I know PT is killing me. I'm hurting more 2 days after.

[Grunt76]

I know PT is killing me. I'm hurting more 2 days after.

Well through the dozen or so backs I have walked through to 95%+ healing, a 100% success rate, the ONE rule that is universal is DON'T MOVE IF IT HURTS.

[ruffneck]

Very interesting G-man. I have metal screwed in at C5,C6,C7 and a herniation at T12, L1, L2, so 100% success rate sounds very good.