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[piotr]

one of my mates at gym did 4weeks of dbol, about 50-60mg per day, gained 9kg, has been off for just over a week and has retained 6kg out of that 9kg he put on.. didnt taper off, didnt do any nolva or anything, just a 4 week blast... is only just noticeably weaker on lifts than he was at the end of the 4 weeks (like 10% or so)

piotr

[catadrioptic]

I've done it before. Back in the day things weren't as readily available as today so we did what we could get. I have had alot of one compound only cycles in my day!

[deadweight]

one of my mates at gym did 4weeks of dbol, about 50-60mg per day, gained 9kg, has been off for just over a week and has retained 6kg out of that 9kg he put on.. didnt taper off, didnt do any nolva or anything, just a 4 week blast... is only just noticeably weaker on lifts than he was at the end of the 4 weeks (like 10% or so)

piotr

very good to hear this my friend.....dw

[deadweight]

Funny you bring this up ..I have a friend that hasnt juice in awile now well 2 or maybe 3 weeks ago i turn him on to a bottle of test enth and npp...I got a call yesterday from him .his progress so far is 12 lbs...Now i was thinking compare just a d-bol cycle to the cycle i stated above and both seem to get the smae result...weight wise....except of course just a d-bol cycle is much cheaper...This is one example why anyone cant go wrong useing d-bol ...dw

[piotr]

dead straight... i'm sick of reading everywhere that its impossible to keep any gains from doing dbol only... its bullshit and i and many of my friends have personal experience to the contrary... sure you'll lose a good 40% of your "gains" but thats mostly the water anyway... imagine if my mate had done what i told him and tapered off for a week maybe he could have kept even more... dbol simply kicks arse cut and dry that is it IMO

piotr

[\SHINE/]

Why sure, older guys like me can't get away with it so easily but some of the younger guys who's hpta bounces back quicker can.


And realy if one takes hcg every week with d-bol it will work even better for a cycle i'd think. ( well of course a pct regimen is recomended)


Here's a neet old study I took from the Nandi archives showing how 15mg of d-bol daily taken two months affected naty test levels,

4 weeks of high dose d-bol and recovery is sertainly possible with some. One would be much better with nolva/clomid mix and some exemestane cause estro rebound will most likely happen with increased aromatase levels after the cycle.

I'd advise him to at least use an AI for a few weeks, IMO one week is to soon to tell how low his hpta is.
elevated aromastse levels can hang around for quite a-while after cycle. And Most sertain those gains can be kept making sure natural test levels are back up and running in a couple of weeks or so.





Acta Endocrinol (Copenh) 1976 Dec;83(4):856-64 Related Articles, Links


Effect of an anabolic steroid (metandienon) on plasma LH-FSH, and testosterone and on the response to intravenous administration of LRH.

Holma P, Adlercreutz H.

Plasma levels of testosterone, luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) as well as the response of LH and FSH to the intravenous administration of 100 mug of luteinizing hormone releasing hormone (LRH) were measured in 16 well-trained athletes (mean age 30 years) before and after 2 months of daily oral intake of 15 mg of metandienon, and anabolic steroid (Anabolin, 17 alpha-methyl-17beta-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one, Medica, Finland). All athletes continued to train regularly, just as they had done for several years. During administration of metandienon the mean plasma testosterone level fell 69%, from 29.4 +/- 11.6 nmol/1 to 9.1 +/- 7.5 nmol/1. The mean plasma levels of LH and FSH also fell significantly (P less than 0.001 and P less than 0.01, respectively), both about 50%. Because LH and FSH levels were low after administration of the steroid the maximum stimulation values after LRH administration were also lower than pre-treatment values although the mean increments did not differ significantly before and after administration of the anabolic steroid. However, after treatment, the FSH response curve had a biphasic pattern in most subjects, with peaks at 10 to 20 and 50 to 60 min after the iv injection of LRH. Administration of LRH after the treatment period had no effect on FSH secretion in two subjects and no effect on LH secretion in one. Our results show that administration of an anabolic steroid causes a pronounced lowering of plasma levels of testosterone, LH and FSH but causes no gross alteration in the response of LH secretion to stimulation by LRH. The reason for the biphasic response pattern of FSH to LRH administration in most subjects is not known.

[SUPERMAN]

When it comes to this there are always exceptions to what is normally the case. We can only theorize what the outcomes will be taken from the norm and the "average person" that by no means is the only possible outcome(s). In dealing with genetics, nothing in my book is written in stone.

[deadweight]

When it comes to this there are always exceptions to what is normally the case. We can only theorize what the outcomes will be taken from the norm and the "average person" that by no means is the only possible outcome(s). In dealing with genetics, nothing in my book is written in stone.

I agree...nothing is written in stone...This is one reason why this sport has so much to offer in all fazes..Its endless....dw

[SUPERMAN]

One of my points exactly my friend.

When it comes to this there are always exceptions to what is normally the case. We can only theorize what the outcomes will be taken from the norm and the "average person" that by no means is the only possible outcome(s). In dealing with genetics, nothing in my book is written in stone.

I agree...nothing is written in stone...This is one reason why this sport has so much to offer in all fazes..Its endless....dw

[piotr]

ok after 2 weeks he's still holding 5kg out of the 9kg he gained... i agree everyone's different what works for some may not for others... personally i always found i could keep gains off dbol.. but everyone's different

piotr