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[Grunt76]

I'm having this argument with some people at the gym where some swear that lowering the weight to the floor is intrinsically incorrect, while others say it is perfectly fine to do so and no additional risk of injury is encountered by doing so.

What do you guys say and why?

[deadweight]

.Basic technique is to place the bar on the floor in front of your shines.Keep your feet approximately shoulder width apart.Grasp the bar with your hands at shoulder width,useing a dead lift grip one hand pronated and one hand supinated and squat down,keeping your arms and back stright and your head up.Pull the weight past your knees untill you are in a fully erect position.RETURN THE WEIGHT TO THE FLOOR UNDER CONTROLL,being carefull to bend only your kness and maintain a stright back.This would be the most proper way to do them from getting hurt....But just like every in life everyone has ther own oppion and trying to get people to agree with you about which way is right is like talking to a brick wall..So many angles ,so many experiances and so many views its really hard to say who is right or what is the right way...Just like squats...Some people will say just going parallel is the right way but i say breaking parallell is the right way.....Just a matter of oppion....dw

[MissKBuff]

As long as form is absolutely perfect, lowering to the floor is fine. It's when the form slips, that your back will take on the weight the wrong way, which could result in injury.

This most often happens when people are using too much weight, when in reality, it's often better (as we all know) to use less weight, even if it means more reps, to ensure the form remains correct to the last one.

Deadlifts are always a tricky one, I've been working on mine for about 6 months now, and finally feel like they are good enough, weight to form ratio, etc.

[diese1]

You can't beat having great form. But then again that argument is different for everyone haha.

[ajdos]

As with my bench I bring the bar as close to touching without touching the floor- trainees do a lot of other excersises where the muscles have to take the brunt of tension the entirety of the set- bent rows, curls, etc- I dont see people do a rep then let the weight drop on those exercises...personally to me - my deadlifting is a personal preference- I have managed to work up to a 715 lb dead at one time by doing it that way- also my grip is a double over hand not the over under I see a lot of guys use.

[MissKBuff]

As with my bench I bring the bar as close to touching without touching the floor- trainees do a lot of other excersises where the muscles have to take the brunt of tension the entirety of the set- bent rows, curls, etc- I dont see people do a rep then let the weight drop on those exercises...personally to me - my deadlifting is a personal preference- I have managed to work up to a 715 lb dead at one time by doing it that way- also my grip is a double over hand not the over under I see a lot of guys use.

Ooooh I've not yet tried the double over hand. How is that? I feel scared that it will slip if I try that, lol...do you find it easier?

[ajdos]

As with my bench I bring the bar as close to touching without touching the floor- trainees do a lot of other excersises where the muscles have to take the brunt of tension the entirety of the set- bent rows, curls, etc- I dont see people do a rep then let the weight drop on those exercises...personally to me - my deadlifting is a personal preference- I have managed to work up to a 715 lb dead at one time by doing it that way- also my grip is a double over hand not the over under I see a lot of guys use.

Ooooh I've not yet tried the double over hand. How is that? I feel scared that it will slip if I try that, lol...do you find it easier?

Its just the way I learned- talk to most pler's and they prefer over under, one guy I know uses this double over shit with his thumbs- looks painful as hell and I have heard ruins your thumbs permanantly- to each his own- double over was just the way I learned- Im not powerlifting so I use straps on my heavy sets- so I dont worry about the grip slipping.

[Streetdawg]

AJ - nice DL power there bro! I was about to ask if you used straps and mention that in here since we're talking about DLs for bber intentions moreso than powerlifting DL training. I used to go double overhand as high as I could go then go over under.

my only comment is DLs are an excellent core lift that make a great foundation for any back work out.

anyone just learning DL's- do some studying online and find some good info on form do's and dont's. DL's are so unforgiving on form and so many injuries over time come from bad form on DL's

SD

[piotr]

i would add that stiff legged / romanian deadlifts shouldn't be lowered to the floor rather you should go low enough to get your back parrallel to the floor... i love romanian deadlifts dont ask me why... i hate seeing guys do romanians and bend their back double over to get the weight onto the ground at the bottom of each rep

piotr

[Grunt76]

i would add that stiff legged / romanian deadlifts shouldn't be lowered to the floor rather you should go low enough to get your back parrallel to the floor... i love romanian deadlifts dont ask me why... i hate seeing guys do romanians and bend their back double over to get the weight onto the ground at the bottom of each rep

piotr

Wouldn't that be just exactly the difference between a RDL and an SLDL?

[piotr]

i'm working under the assumption that romanian and stiff legged - "stiff" as in straight - is the same thing....?

piotr

[ThatBro]

I think injury come most likely from one of two places. I see people get hurt either trying to rep a few more they dont have in them , thus losing form and balance resulting in back injury... or letting the weight rest on the floor inbetween reps, even for a few second (mostly happends when the weight is too heavy) ... the point is to keep the tention consistant and the muscles locked in. When you remove the load even for a fraction of asecond you alter the biomechanics and disk injury is likely to occur. just my 2cc's

[any1uno]

I've seen people drop the weight. But, if you're talking competition..the weight is to be controlled down. So..that is how we practice it during training.

As for over and under grips or both hands over. Both hands over helps with grip strength.

[Blut Wump]

I treat a deadlift rep as coming up from the floor and returning to the floor. While the bar is on the floor between reps, I take the opportunity to fill myself afresh with air and adjust my grip, if necessary. The touch-and-go or not touching at all, I think of as RDL.

I try to use double-over for as long as my grip will take it. Once I start to doubt it then I'll switch to a mixed grip. If that is failing then I'll resort to straps. The double-over grip locking down on the thumb is known as a hook grip and primarily used by Olympic lifters since they can't use straps in competition.