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[piotr]

i realise theres recently been a discussion re MKB but the focus on this thread is somewhat different...

a female friend of mine wants to take things to the next level... she's only tiny, like an australian size 6 (which i think for you americans is like 0) wieghs barely 45kg if that, little hardbody... trains a few hours per day, weights, pilates, cardio the whole shabang... fit as all f*^&k... she's 40 years old... never used gear before... training for many many years...

NOW... she has dbol and testogel (the schering one)... there is nothing i can do for her... i got rid of all my shit to pay for my postgraduate diploma and am staying out of the game for a while at least... the only thing i could possibly give her is some tren ace lol... it is incredibly difficult to source anything around here locally... all there is going around if you accidentally like trip over something is vet gear most of which is fake... her dbol are naposims i know they're legit cos she got them off a mate of mine who get them off me... me personally i would never have given her dbol or test...

i've told her not to take either of them... but her heart is set on trying... she says even just 5mg dbol every morning... i think its a bad idea... i have done some research and it seems even 5mg of dbol for a woman would entail some strong virilisation....

can anybody tell me is there any realistic way she can use either the dbol or the testogel without seriously screwing herself up? keep in mind this would be her FIRST attempt...

many thanks in advance
piotr

[Ms.Wetback]

She is nuts................if she is a real friend buy her some Var. That would be the best way for a first cycle. I wouldn't let any woman go near either of those for a first time.

[Grunt76]

Yeah man at worst get her some OTC stuff... Halodrol, Superdrol and Epistane are all suited for female use and they get into OZ super easily.

You just have to re-cap them from 10mg down to 2.5mg. No virilization from any of those, up to 5mg for the sdrol and 10mg for the 2 others. Here you have 3 different steroids, she can play with those for a few cycles, try and get her some var and primo and maybe EQ and some real OT meantime...

[catadrioptic]

I wouldnt dream of letting any female I know take Dbol. I can get bad reactions from it on only 10-15mg/day and I assume that it would take a whole lot less to start irreversible side to start on a female.

[piotr]

all that OTC stuff is illegal in australia... cant buy it cant find it... the australian legislation prohibits any "anabolic or androgenic substance" unlike the US legislation which prohibits anabolics chemical by chemical through a schedule... i think i'm going to go over to her house and just take it off her so she cant use it...

piotr

i'm gonna see if i can find her some legit vet EQ... thats probly the only chance... slim but worth a try

piotr

[Grunt76]

all that OTC stuff is illegal in australia... cant buy it cant find it... the australian legislation prohibits any "anabolic or androgenic substance" unlike the US legislation which prohibits anabolics chemical by chemical through a schedule... i think i'm going to go over to her house and just take it off her so she cant use it...

piotr

i'm gonna see if i can find her some legit vet EQ... thats probly the only chance... slim but worth a try

piotr

I was in OZ exactly 2 years ago visiting a buddy and he imported these things from the USA no problem. It might be technically illegal, but customs has no clue about it, and because it's sold OTC in the USA where AAS are prohibited, they don't think it's AAS, and they let it through. Well that was 2 years ago though, but it might be very much worth a try bro.

Just looking for options for you friend.

[extremevet]

Tell her she is gonna end up with a 6" clit and a mans jawline look at chyna...

[Razor D]

also consult vindeisel about the gel , she is knowledgeable about dosages for women, and dbol NO!!!!

[piotr]

ive had more than enough experience with oz customs honestly the chance of getting anything through in a commercial towards personal context is almost impossible... i imported some novacaine last year which isnt even prohibited and i had customs trying to intimidate me purely becuase it was unusual... yes my society is fawked our government spends a disproportiatnote amount on border control

piotr

actually i need to correct that last post to an extent... they were interested precisely because they knew what was the best use for it... commonwealth agents tend to be well educated and well paid unfortunately

piotr

some may criticize me for this but i went over to see her a couple hours ago when she was drunk at her place and cuddled her until she fell asleep then grabbed all the test and naps and went home... she just called me shes mega pissed but fuck it... shes a beautiful woman i dont want to see her get into strife...

piotr

[Grunt76]

ive had more than enough experience with oz customs honestly the chance of getting anything through in a commercial towards personal context is almost impossible... i imported some novacaine last year which isnt even prohibited and i had customs trying to intimidate me purely becuase it was unusual... yes my society is fawked our government spends a disproportiatnote amount on border control

piotr

actually i need to correct that last post to an extent... they were interested precisely because they knew what was the best use for it... commonwealth agents tend to be well educated and well paid unfortunately

piotr

some may criticize me for this but i went over to see her a couple hours ago when she was drunk at her place and cuddled her until she fell asleep then grabbed all the test and naps and went home... she just called me shes mega pissed but fuck it... shes a beautiful woman i dont want to see her get into strife...

piotr

Well that sucks, but I'm with you, Canada is the only other place that competes with OZ for extreme import vigilance. It is to such a degree that some guys are making do without GH, and they would be willing to offer fortunes for the stuff, it just DOESN'T come in, so it seems.

[piotr]

mate, what i've seen some guys here pay for locally sourced somatropin makes me wanna throw up... and then because they paid through the nose they try to do like max 2iu per day or some minimil usless amount to drag it out...

grunt, mate to be honest with you locally boys are paying like $75 US for an amp of sust... etc etc its fucked the local scene has been destroyed since the commonwealth government shut down all the vet labs a couple years ago (animal power, qv, etc)... i envy u boys in the states

piotr

[Blut Wump]

Dbol isn't a good choice for a woman. It was prescribed long ago as a tonic for women at just 5mg ED but quickly discontinued due to the high incidence of virilizing symptoms. There's also the mild hit to the liver.

Test is a cleaner compound for her than dbol. She could apply the cream to thin parts of her skin such as at the back of the knees. The good thing about the test cream is that there are few metabolites to deal with when she discontinues on noticing any adverse effects: deepening of voice; acne; swelling of genitals; hair growth. As such it would be out of her system quickly and she ought to return to normal. She can expect to lose her period. Things should return to normal so long as she doesn't indulge in prolonged or heavy use. Note that heavy use for a female is about a tenth of what we'd call heavy use.

Var would be a much better choice, starting at 5mg and increasing to 10mg if it treats her well. I'd strongly suggest that she discuss using with an experienced female rather than canvass male opinions.

Whatever she decides to use, start very light and increase only when comfortable.

Note that women have no need of PCT.

[MissKBuff]

OMG NO NO NO!!! This is a bad thing for her to do, seriously. She needs to start small. I would start her with some Var (provided you can find some) and listen to Grunt.

[Blut Wump]

Primo and Eq can lead to hair loss in those prone to it (primo is DHB-derived). I'd be reluctant to put a woman on superdrol, it's very androgenic and almost certainly a progestagen. It failed testing for human production when it was discovered almost 40 years ago due to it's high hepatoxicity.

[piotr]

thanx for the response... anyway she's loosing her shit at me she want me to give her back the testogel and dbol... not happening... lol o well

piotr