Hey bros, been a while. Wanted to get your opinion on a b/f reducing cycle I'm considering. My main goal is improved body composition at this point. I'm 6'-3" at 260lbs, I'd say I have about 35 extra (fat) pounds on me. I'm experienced with diets (although I haven't been practicing them) and have been on 1/2 dozen cycles in the past. I've read alot of threads on DNP and realize it's alot different than some of the chemicals I've used in the past. What I'm looking for is something to stack with it to help me reach my goals. Here is what I'm considering. Please, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
8 Week DNP Cycle:
First week: 1 pill ed (7days)
Second week: 2 pills ed
Third week: 2/3 pills rotating ed (Mon 2 - Tues 3) Continue this dosage plan for 3 weeks if tolerable.
Six - eighth week: 3 pills ed
Plan on keeping my diet clean with minimal carbs. Cardio will be done 5 days a week at an hour a session, probably walking on treadmill at 4 mph with a steep incline, plus some early morning runs around the neighborhood. Lifting and calithenics will be done 3-4 times a week.
I'm wondering if maybe tren might help and allow me to keep some muscle, or even add some? But I thinking the night sweats (nasty shit not regular sweat) I've experienced from tren combined with the added sweats from DNP might be too much to tolerate?....or maybe what would you guys think about a short HGH cycle added to the DNP?
I would greatly appreciate any ideas...
Peace,
Hotdog
Weight loss with DNP and ?
Started By Hotdog, Jun 13 2009 10:18 AM
11 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 13 June 2009 - 10:18 AM
#2
Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:43 AM
Bump! Anybody have any info?
#3
Posted 15 June 2009 - 02:13 AM
What you have laid out sounds decent and its similiar to what I did.
I ran DNP for around 40 days startinf at 1 cap a day and ending with 3 caps a day.
In between I staggered the caps doing 1 one day then 2 the next, and so on.
As far as what to take I wouldn't advise Tren if this is your first DNP run just so as not to exacerbate the sweating, but its entirely possible to run them if you simply must. As far as that goes just run whatever AAS you usaually perfer for cutting, Var, Mast/Tren/Prop, Win, etc.
Fatloss, is going to occur with DNP and the AAS will keep your strength up, One thing i'd like to mention is that taking AAS is not neccesary to "keep muscle" on DNP, as I used it entirely free from AAS and experienced no muscle tissue loss.
DNP is not like other UCP's such as thyroid meds in that DNP is not by itself catabolic, some have expressed opinions on it actually having no muscular effect whatsoever. I can say that I lose alot fo strength, but that was due to it crushing my bodies ability to regnerate ATP, not from actual LBM loss.
I had the same relative LBM after 40 days of concurrent administartion of DNP as I did when I started.
I ran DNP for around 40 days startinf at 1 cap a day and ending with 3 caps a day.
In between I staggered the caps doing 1 one day then 2 the next, and so on.
As far as what to take I wouldn't advise Tren if this is your first DNP run just so as not to exacerbate the sweating, but its entirely possible to run them if you simply must. As far as that goes just run whatever AAS you usaually perfer for cutting, Var, Mast/Tren/Prop, Win, etc.
Fatloss, is going to occur with DNP and the AAS will keep your strength up, One thing i'd like to mention is that taking AAS is not neccesary to "keep muscle" on DNP, as I used it entirely free from AAS and experienced no muscle tissue loss.
DNP is not like other UCP's such as thyroid meds in that DNP is not by itself catabolic, some have expressed opinions on it actually having no muscular effect whatsoever. I can say that I lose alot fo strength, but that was due to it crushing my bodies ability to regnerate ATP, not from actual LBM loss.
I had the same relative LBM after 40 days of concurrent administartion of DNP as I did when I started.
#4
Posted 15 June 2009 - 06:07 AM
Thinkbig: Thanks bro. I read your journal and it was very informative. I pretty much made up my mind I want to try the stuff do to your write up on it. I'm considering stacking it with tren, Well? We all have a little lab-rat mentality in us. I figure between the LBM gain from tren and the f*ckin' insane night sweats from both. Improved body composition could be achieved through workouts and some necessary misery before summer is over.
Thanks bro!
Peace,
Hotdog
Thanks bro!
Peace,
Hotdog
#5
Posted 18 June 2009 - 03:59 AM
Thank you. I am glad you found it informative, that was my goal.
Be safe and ask if you have any questions.
Be safe and ask if you have any questions.
#6
Posted 19 June 2009 - 11:15 PM
i used dnp for 10 days during my last test/tren cycle at 200mg per day for 4 days then up to 1 today 2 tomorrow, 1 the next. My night sweats were ridiculous!! It was my first time using dnp and would not use again during the summer, but it did not help we hit a hot spell of 100 degrees everyday in May. I have heard it is very muscle sparring, I would not use any aas and save that for after the dnp cycle.
#7
Posted 04 July 2009 - 11:02 PM
Since it builds in your system, I would discourage that duration of use. 3/day is fairly high, and should only be used briefly. Even 2/day for 40 days would overwhelm you. Also, consider whether you are using powder or crystalline DNP.
#8
Posted 12 September 2009 - 09:15 PM
I like to use it 2 days at 400mg and 2 days off and on my off day I use a ECA
#9
Posted 14 September 2009 - 01:25 PM
I used two caps a day, 1 in the morning and one about 8hrs later. Depending on who I get it frpm that is 400-500mg daily. I usually run it for about 2 weeks or so. I sweat my ass off lol. I didnt think that when u run dnp losing muscle mass was that great. Of course you will lose some but I thought that it pretty much just burned off fat since it uses up ATP and raises your body temp so much but then again I could be totally off lol. I have always had good results with it but u need to be careful for sure.
#10
Posted 26 September 2009 - 08:29 PM
What I've found is that most guys who plan their DNP use in advance end up tossing their plans out the window. DNP can't be run according to a pre-determined schedule, because the MOST important determinant of what you do with it is your body's real-time feedback. It's one thing to plan, "at week six I'll use 3 caps/day." It's another thing to get to week six in real life and follow the plan.
DNP accumulates in the body, which means that you could do 2/day for a long time, and the first week at that dose would be MUCH less intense than, say, the third week (I get emails all the #@%^ing time that say "bro, I'm, on day 3 of your stuff and I'm not feeling it. Is it underdosed, or did I get a bad batch?"). The best plan is to spend 3-4 days at 1/day to assess tolerance, then bump to 2/day and STAY STEADY for about a week...a common mistake guys make is to forget that is accumulates, and so they assume after a couple of days on 2/day that they're fine and can handle a dosage bump, and end up overdoing it. 3/day is a high dose, assuming you're using a product that's provided by an accurate supplier with fresh high-quality DNP. I've known people who've used 3/day of my stuff, but it's higher than my recommendation.
Instead of planning it on paper, you'll need to go slow and maintain any change in dose for a few days to see how it works, and determine your dosage by your physical response at the time.
Hope that helps, and good luck!
DNP accumulates in the body, which means that you could do 2/day for a long time, and the first week at that dose would be MUCH less intense than, say, the third week (I get emails all the #@%^ing time that say "bro, I'm, on day 3 of your stuff and I'm not feeling it. Is it underdosed, or did I get a bad batch?"). The best plan is to spend 3-4 days at 1/day to assess tolerance, then bump to 2/day and STAY STEADY for about a week...a common mistake guys make is to forget that is accumulates, and so they assume after a couple of days on 2/day that they're fine and can handle a dosage bump, and end up overdoing it. 3/day is a high dose, assuming you're using a product that's provided by an accurate supplier with fresh high-quality DNP. I've known people who've used 3/day of my stuff, but it's higher than my recommendation.
Instead of planning it on paper, you'll need to go slow and maintain any change in dose for a few days to see how it works, and determine your dosage by your physical response at the time.
Hope that helps, and good luck!
#11
Posted 27 September 2009 - 10:56 AM
What I've found is that most guys who plan their DNP use in advance end up tossing their plans out the window. DNP can't be run according to a pre-determined schedule, because the MOST important determinant of what you do with it is your body's real-time feedback. It's one thing to plan, "at week six I'll use 3 caps/day." It's another thing to get to week six in real life and follow the plan.
DNP accumulates in the body, which means that you could do 2/day for a long time, and the first week at that dose would be MUCH less intense than, say, the third week (I get emails all the #@%^ing time that say "bro, I'm, on day 3 of your stuff and I'm not feeling it. Is it underdosed, or did I get a bad batch?"). The best plan is to spend 3-4 days at 1/day to assess tolerance, then bump to 2/day and STAY STEADY for about a week...a common mistake guys make is to forget that is accumulates, and so they assume after a couple of days on 2/day that they're fine and can handle a dosage bump, and end up overdoing it. 3/day is a high dose, assuming you're using a product that's provided by an accurate supplier with fresh high-quality DNP. I've known people who've used 3/day of my stuff, but it's higher than my recommendation.
Instead of planning it on paper, you'll need to go slow and maintain any change in dose for a few days to see how it works, and determine your dosage by your physical response at the time.
Hope that helps, and good luck!
Very helpfull dinitro. Thanks bro I keep that in mind.
#12
Posted 28 September 2009 - 10:26 PM
I'm
I'm thinking of running dnp myself, just wondering if test and gh would be a good addition to it
I'm thinking of running dnp myself, just wondering if test and gh would be a good addition to it
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