what I'm running to harden up a bit at the start of summer
Started By piotr, Nov 06 2009 03:56 AM
20 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 06 November 2009 - 03:56 AM
tren ace 50mg ED
test base in oil 40mg ED
30mg dbol ED (15mg x 2)
50mg proviron ED
PIOTR
test base in oil 40mg ED
30mg dbol ED (15mg x 2)
50mg proviron ED
PIOTR
#2
Posted 06 November 2009 - 04:03 AM
I don't get much bloat, only a little, with dbol or test usually, even without an AI... but if i'm not dropping water by the second week I'll drop the dbol altogether
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#4
Posted 09 November 2009 - 03:13 PM
No set limit... I'm going to stay on until I get where I want to be... Although I don't want to get into a trap of dragging it too long if strength gains are strong and consistent, in which case I may be tempted / greedy... I reckon 2 months max
And based on the first week the strength gains are great... Even after only a couple days on the tren ace I could feel the difference... Was more aggressive and confident when lifting, was lifting numbers I hadn't been doing comfortably in sum time..
For example did 330lb t-bar row for 3 quality reps on day 4 of the course... I've never t-barred that much... guy that was spotting me reckons he was barely touching the bar (but i don't believe him)... man I havn't used tren ace for a while, I love the strength off it...
And I'm not too worried about sides, I'm taking B6 for prolactin and low dose doxycycline for potential acne... Although if I start to get serious issues with anxiety/insomia etc then I will have to re-evaluate...
Also I've decided to leave the dbol out... Its not going to add much if anything to my strength gains, after thinking about it, its rather superfluous to the goals I'm trying to achieve... Last couple years dbol has never given me much of a boost in strenght, only a few weeks of easy rebound bulk... Thats not necessary here... But if I feel after a few weeks that I can use a bit more its always there to be thrown in
By the way have gained 5lbs in 1st week... WTF?!... have been eating clean but ALOT am hungry as hell, so the leaning up isn't exactly going to plan... but something's definitely working lol
PIOTR
And based on the first week the strength gains are great... Even after only a couple days on the tren ace I could feel the difference... Was more aggressive and confident when lifting, was lifting numbers I hadn't been doing comfortably in sum time..
For example did 330lb t-bar row for 3 quality reps on day 4 of the course... I've never t-barred that much... guy that was spotting me reckons he was barely touching the bar (but i don't believe him)... man I havn't used tren ace for a while, I love the strength off it...
And I'm not too worried about sides, I'm taking B6 for prolactin and low dose doxycycline for potential acne... Although if I start to get serious issues with anxiety/insomia etc then I will have to re-evaluate...
Also I've decided to leave the dbol out... Its not going to add much if anything to my strength gains, after thinking about it, its rather superfluous to the goals I'm trying to achieve... Last couple years dbol has never given me much of a boost in strenght, only a few weeks of easy rebound bulk... Thats not necessary here... But if I feel after a few weeks that I can use a bit more its always there to be thrown in
By the way have gained 5lbs in 1st week... WTF?!... have been eating clean but ALOT am hungry as hell, so the leaning up isn't exactly going to plan... but something's definitely working lol
PIOTR
#5
Posted 10 November 2009 - 03:41 AM
Hmmm. . have had trouble sleeping last couple of nights... Fall asleep OK within an hour, but have woken up 2-3 hours later unable to get back to sleep
Will go to doctor this morning try to get some xanax
PIOTR
Will go to doctor this morning try to get some xanax
PIOTR
#6
Posted 10 November 2009 - 04:09 AM
Well planned!
Piotr, I also have trouble sleeping at night. Try taking benadryl at night, 50mg. In conjunction, use melatonin. This has helped me.
Piotr, I also have trouble sleeping at night. Try taking benadryl at night, 50mg. In conjunction, use melatonin. This has helped me.
#7
Posted 10 November 2009 - 08:18 AM
whats the active ingregient in benadryl mate? I think it may be restricted here
obviously I need to have a look at my diet again, I may be eating cleaner bu8t obviously not right for what I want to do
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obviously I need to have a look at my diet again, I may be eating cleaner bu8t obviously not right for what I want to do
PIOTR
#9
Posted 11 November 2009 - 03:23 AM
I'm going to by some benadryl tonight after work... Thanks I've never tried that so hopefully it may assist
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#10
Posted 11 November 2009 - 06:50 AM
just bought 1 litre, at 12.5mg per 5ml... cheap stuff
piotr
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#11
Posted 12 November 2009 - 04:51 AM
OK so 100mg diphenhydramine + 4 mg xanax knocked me over the fence last nite! damn thats a potent stack... Its not the benzos, I've been unfortunately abusing them since I was a kid for my sleep, normally i'd barely feel 4mg of xanax... But the diphenhydramine on top...
NICE thanks for the suggestion mate!!!... tonight I'll try 75mg diphenhydramine + 3mg xanax
PIOTR
NICE thanks for the suggestion mate!!!... tonight I'll try 75mg diphenhydramine + 3mg xanax
PIOTR
#12
Posted 12 November 2009 - 08:45 AM
Yes, its great for sleep.
100mg is a lot, 50mg of benadryl will work well.
Glad I could help
100mg is a lot, 50mg of benadryl will work well.
Glad I could help
#13
Posted 17 November 2009 - 04:44 AM
Urgh the insomnia is starting to rear its ugly head... the diphenhydramine aint doing squat... seemed to help the first couple times but now isn't doing shit...
took 60mg temazapam last night and 75mg diphenhydramine --- took me 2 hours to get to sleep and woke up 3.5 hours later! ... so watered the garden and did some research on the computer... have a job interview to go to in a few hours... could have used a good sleep
I mean, 50mg tren ace ED isn't a huge amount... but i guess in androgenic terms that's equivalent to almost 150mg test suspension...
If I can't get this to calm down I may need to reconsider this cycle
PIOTR
took 60mg temazapam last night and 75mg diphenhydramine --- took me 2 hours to get to sleep and woke up 3.5 hours later! ... so watered the garden and did some research on the computer... have a job interview to go to in a few hours... could have used a good sleep
I mean, 50mg tren ace ED isn't a huge amount... but i guess in androgenic terms that's equivalent to almost 150mg test suspension...
If I can't get this to calm down I may need to reconsider this cycle
PIOTR
#14
Posted 17 November 2009 - 08:37 AM
But is there anything you could use to fall asleep while cycling?? I sleep only a few hours a night when Im on cycle....doesn't matter if it's test, dbols....shit...even deca keeps me wired 36 hours a day. And bro...a personal note. I almost died withdrawing from benzos 2 years back. I was taking 4mgs of xanax every night because I was on a dbol and test cycle for around 6 months. I thought I could quit cold turkey but I ended up sleepless for three weeks with seizures and the worst sweats you could imagine. It's as bad as withdrawal from alcohol so be careful if you haven't been there yet...
#15
Posted 17 November 2009 - 03:22 PM
Mate been there many times... I know this sounds ridiculous but before my constitutional law exam 2 years ago I smashed 13mg xanax and couldn't even close my eyes... thats how bad my tolerance was
its just that i need to be on the ball for work...
but i know from personal experience benzos are fucked but dammit i hate feeling so fried
?????
maybe i just have to suck it up
piotr
its just that i need to be on the ball for work...
but i know from personal experience benzos are fucked but dammit i hate feeling so fried
?????
maybe i just have to suck it up
piotr
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