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[piotr]

But really you get it even on dbol and test?

Maybe I should stop having a sook then...

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[piotr]

Ok got some decent sleep last nite without any chems or booze or anything, so I'm not that far gone I guess... I'll save the xanies for if / when I'm desperate... don't want to get back into my bad old ways...

also was bored after work today so made an injectable - (35mg proviron + 15mg dbol) per ml... they both hold together easy with 7% BA and 15% BB in peanut oil... will be jabbing this along with my tren ace and test base ED instead of dosing them orally

after a couple weeks strength gains are fantastic, am a little more vascular, and that 5lbs i put on first week - have dropped 2 lb of that... am looking to drop a few more pounds now that I've cleaned up diet after the dramatic weight gain of 1st week

no acne to speak of as yet, no signs of gyno as yet... 600mg b6 ED is probably helping stave that off

so far very very good

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[deadweight]

i think just about anyone that uses has problems sleeping somewhere down the line...Even myself,i have no problems falling asleep but staying asleep is another issue..I'll hit the sack around 9pm but then getting up around 12 to 1am then hoping up to workout...then falling back asleep around 2am then getting back up around 5 to 6am for work...My whole problem is mentel i think..When i get up my mind tells me to work out..Get the shit over with.So i just follow what my mind tells me to do.werid shit but atleast i never miss a workout....dw

I think sleep is over rated simply because you can grow with 5 hours of sleep VS. 8 hours... Im Only going by self experiance ...And really self experiance is what counts...dw

[piotr]

Hey DW thanks for the response

I agree also that sleep is over-rated, I grow with sweet f-all sleep... but I find based on talking to people about it it's completely subjective... those that have always slept like a baby think they're going to die if they don't get 8 hours sleep per night, while those like me who have always had difficulty sleeping feel awesome with 5 solid hours... its just those nights where you don't even close your eyes that leave me cooked the next day

by the way that proviron / dbol mix injectable is hurting like hell... i don't get it... the test base @40mg/ml is painless, and has the same concentration of BA and BB as the proviron / dbol mix... weird... and i'm very tolerant to injection site pain cos i've used alot of test prop and base steroid injectables

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[Purplehaze]

Mate been there many times... I know this sounds ridiculous but before my constitutional law exam 2 years ago I smashed 13mg xanax and couldn't even close my eyes... thats how bad my tolerance was

its just that i need to be on the ball for work...

but i know from personal experience benzos are fucked but dammit i hate feeling so fried

?????

maybe i just have to suck it up

piotr

Jeez man...Be careful with taking that many man....I had problems with anxiety when I was younger and they(benzos) absolutely controlled me for a few years...My anxiety seemed to be a lot worse with various cycles..I would have trouble sleeping and my mind seemed to race all day and night...I got a script for sleeping pills and it seemed to help more than the benzos...Have you tried ambien or anything else? I assume that you have terrible anxiety and that is why you were on xanax?..

[piotr]

hey bro

i've always had a bit of anxiety here or there, the doctors gave me the benzos for sleep... i know they're used both for sleep and anxiety,.. I mean problem for me was like you, my mind was always racing and I couldn't nod off like most people, just thinking about too much shit...

look I still use benzos even though I had a massive problem with them in the past, but I've learnt one extremely important control mechanism with them - absolutely don't use them more than two nites in a row... Two nites in a row max, once you start backing up 4-5 nites they stop doing shit and then you get rebound insomnia the first nite you try not to take them... absolute nightmare... I have no tolerance or dependancy issues anymore as long as I keep it to that rule of thumb

Ambien does nothing for me... I have no idea why... Its weird... Xanax is the beez neez though but a double edged sword in that its so damn strong

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