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[toltec]

Awesome replies guys. Thanks a bunch. ThatBro, I will look into what you posted for sure. I want to definitely want to get the best possible up to date information out there so I can make educated decisions on my long term use. I am definitely leaning toward, long-term use as the effects are well worth it.

[ThatBro]

One more thing!

To solve the cholesterol problem donate blood every 3-4 months and bango wamo! you give away cholesterol saturated blood all the while your body makes new oxegen rich choleterol free blood to replace it.

Your welcome

[GymFreak]

Wow this thread went down in a hurry.

To answer your question about " if you are on Test for 3 months, off 1 or 2 months, then back on for 3 months, do you need a PCT?"

No you will waste your money and it will do more harm than good. Playing the yo yo game with your nads is not the way to recover. I had this proven to me by my urologist with blood work and lots of money and time wasted.


There are several good books to reference, and from the hard data you can make educated choices.

I think what these guys are tryn to tell you is never take someones advice as we are all different responders due to our unique biochem.

For just plain data about the different AAS try Anabolics 2009. Once you have a sound understanding of half lifes, receptor availability and the synergy of the AAS based on what I mentioned before you'll answer your own questions. You also need to study the harshness of each drug and the organs they impact so you can supplement with other meds to counter any sides as well as decide how long to stay on and what to taake next to maximise effectiveness. For example the anabolic / andorgenic "swim" technique.

Knowing the sides and at what typical dosages will help you avoid them and know what compounds to take to remedy the situation if it call for it.

I know myself when asked things like this and there is way to much to explain to do you any good and if you want to be elite you need this basic background info so make an educated conversation.

Best of luck to you brother I know I have been where you are and I'm glad that was a very long time ago. LOL

P.S. Ive been a year rounder for years

I have been a " ROUNDER " a few times. IMO there is nothing wrong with going this path. The only advice I could give, and some others may/may not agree is, that I ALWAYS get my blood work done if I stay on for a year. I think its important.

[toltec]

So do you think it's a good idea to get a doctor involved? I've been thinking it would be a good idea, just have no good way of how to approach it.

[GymFreak]

So do you think it's a good idea to get a doctor involved? I've been thinking it would be a good idea, just have no good way of how to approach it.

I got lucky and have a pretty cool doc. I was straight forward with him, and strictly told him the exact reasons why I wanted to have my bloodwork done and such. Of course we spoke for a while about all of the dangers of using AAS yada yada yada. But all in all I think he respected the fact that I was a straight shooter and told him exactly what was going on. I would say if your doc seems approachable about this kind of thing, than by all means it cannot hurt to have him in your corner.

[ThatBro]

I ALWAYS get my blood work done if I stay on for a year. I think its important.

I agree with GF this is important.

I would just make sure your educated when speaking with your doc. Urologist are the guys that specialize in this feild and know what to look for most of the time. I had to educate my GP and printed studies to validate what I was saying. He is now taking HRT and thanks me every time I see him.

If I recall there are some good posts on this board from the past regarding the specific blood test you would want. I know we have talked about this more than once.