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[mikestrong]

Good VIP Women,

Sorry to come in here like this. It is my first time in here, except for when I helped make this section.

OK need help.

I have forever been selling DNP, talking it up as great DIET pill for women, well finally I realize. I AM WRONG.

It does not seem to work on women, now I feel pretty bad. I am going to find the BEST DIET PILL & give away pills to those I talked into buying DNP from me.

Also my wife is looking for a miracle DIET PILL.

All help & advice is appreciated.

respect
mikestrong

[IronpumpedLady]

Mike, would you mind sharing what you've found as far as it not working, I've never used it, it's not one that I've really ever recommend to any one. So I am curious.


No supplement - on its own - will make you lose fat. At best, a supplement may help you attain more benefit from exercise or make a diet more pleasant. There are no silver bullets or magic potions.

Building muscle is the "investing" of the fat loss world: muscle burns calories even when you are at rest. Unlike financial investing however, muscle is a risk-free investment! And it starts paying dividends immediately.

"Miracle diets" are miraculous only in that people still fall for them. Long term fat loss requires a balanced diet, including a healthy amount of carbs, fats and protein. Fad diets are only sustainable short term, and/or have negative health side effects.

There is no away around the reality that consistent long term fat loss requires a lifestyle change - you can't just "do something" for 3 months and then go back to your old ways, and expect to keep the fat off. Consistent, sustained effort is mandatory for success.


I would add an ECA stack to your supplements, generally it will help to boost energy levels, and the metabolism. Along with Liquid Iodine and Sea Kelp first thing in the morning to help boost the thyroid out put and keep it from shutting down.

For the hard core you could add a "PLUS" to the ECA stack in your supplements. The "plus" being Anavar, The low dose of var will help support your weight loss efforts by helping to retain muscle mass, and support metabolic pathways.



Stay Strong~~!!!
IPL

[mikestrong]

Well I have not done the DNP myself.

As my Metabolism is fast as it is.

But comparing men vs women who use DNP. Men are getting way more results not even close.

So it lead me to look for answers.

I hear you on the BUILD MUSCLE Strategy. I am all there myself.

But I need something for WOMEN here locally. Women that are severely overweight, have no time, energy, know how &/or money for gym.

It is different type of lifestyle here, people seems to know little about health, training & diet.

So you recommend the ECA Stack? Does it come in a PILL ready to use? Sorry I have not seen it here.

How about other items:

CLEN
T3
EPHEDRA
PHENTERMINE
BROMOCRIPTINE
MERIDIA
XENICAL


I heard there was a NEW product out of MEXICO, came out last year.

Not sure if I am leaving some good products out.

I need to try to help these people, I can not in good conscience sell them a blank.

Thanks & Respect
mikestrong

[BLUESTORM]

Of all on that list Mike, I would highly agree with IPL. Ephedra has been, and I think will always be, one of the best. However, I think an ECY stack is better for women. Yohimbine works great for targeting the fat in the hips, buttock and upper thigh area. Usually where average women have stubborn fat.
And of course, thyroid meds are extremely beneficial. Many overweight women suffer high blood pressure and that knocks Ephedra out of the picture for them. Overall, the majority of overweight people will benefit very well from thyroid medication.
Last but not least on my list is Metformin. Great for dieting and fatloss/weightloss.

[\SHINE/]

Does she have PCOS by any chance?

http://women.webmd.com/tc/polycystic-ovary...-topic-overview

Now that Blue mentioned metformin Some of the smart docs are using this to treat the problem of pcos and weight problems, I've seen met alone drop 20lbs with in a month on a lady friend using met when nothing else seemed to work (of course with exercise). Might have her hormones checked as well as the thyroid.

AS far as my lady friend (who I work at the hospital with) she later added Phentermine for a couple moths to add fule to the fire. SO far she has lost one hell of a lot of weight and seems to be keeping it under control. She adds the eca from time to time as well, says yohimbe makes her to nervous.

Jus m y 2cc's

[BLUESTORM]

^Yeah, yohimbe can raise anxiety levels.
After thinking about it, I think an ECA stack is better suited for women in general. I'm not talking crap here, but women are emotional, and I know a lot of women who use antidepressants. MAOI's and yohimbe do NOT mix well at all. They can interact upon each other to increase effects and side effects of each other.

If it is a woman that has no anxiety, blood pressure or depression issues, then she can certainly benefit from it.

[Ms.Wetback]

I used DNP and it worked for me. Maybe you got a bad batch ??

[flex]

^{Mike, haven't you learned by now there is no magic pill to lose weight. If there was,, someone would have cornered the market by now. I am not a woman so cannot answer this from a 1st hand experience. But from others I know that have tried to help their women lose weight with gear or supplementation have told me things like winny and anavar work best. T3 and clen always seemed to help me in the past but I am a guy. I don't know how a woman would respond to such items. Also to say all individuals respond differently to certain supplements/gear.}